35 Whelen 250grn Hornady RN through the lungs at 40 to 45 yds then he ran 75 yds jumped over a downed tree and collapsed. He had 20 to 30 seconds that he could have put the hurt on me. He is 5/8 off in the skull from Boone and Crockett. Getting him 4 miles out of the woods was an all night job. Still catching it for 4 miles in the woods alone and bear hunting alone.