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    Does anyone know if you are allowed to hunt for Black Bear in Galena Bay out of Valdez? I've heard people say it is native owned but have also talked to people in Valdez who say it is hunted all the time.
    Also, I hear of a cabin somewhere in Galena bay. Does anyone have any info on it; like where it is and who can use it?
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    I do not know that location but here is a website where you can check land ownership for the whole state.

    http://mapper.landrecords.info/
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    I teach the bear baiting class in Valdez. Almost all of Galena Bay is Native Corp land. You can call and obtain a permit for $25 a day to hunt the land. It also takes about 2 weeks for approval. There is one small strip of state land. As you approach the entrance to the back half, it is the point on the right hand side and some adjacent to it. I don't have a link here at work but if it still sounds interesting, PM me, and I can get the information to you latter on.

    The cabin is on Native Corp. lands and the water in front of it very shallow. Your boat anchored up, will probably go dry for 3-400 yards out.

    http://www.chugach-ak.com/landspermits.html

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    I too am interested in possibly getting a permit for that area - I checked out a Forest Service Map of the bay and it looks like it is owned by the Tatitlek Corporation, not the Chugach Corporation. Dave can you confirm which corporation is correct??

    Dave - thanks for your good post on the Bay (and all of the rest - you always have good information and are very tactfull- I would love to attend one of your baiting classes - but too far away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSC Hunter View Post
    I too am interested in possibly getting a permit for that area - I checked out a Forest Service Map of the bay and it looks like it is owned by the Tatitlek Corporation, not the Chugach Corporation. Dave can you confirm which corporation is correct??

    Dave - thanks for your good post on the Bay (and all of the rest - you always have good information and are very tactfull- I would love to attend one of your baiting classes - but too far away...
    Chugach is the regional corporation and Tatilek is a village corporation, but part of Chugach, I believe. Clear as mud, huh? Here is the number for the lands office at Chugach: (907) 563-8866 and a link to the map of the region's land: http://www.chugach-ak.com/landsmapmiddle.html
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    Tatitlek Corporation does own that land in Galena Bay, not Chugach. You need to contact Tatitlek Corporation to see if they will issue a land use permit, or not.

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    Thanks for the information - I emailed the Tatitlek Corporation.

    Now it is Wait & See

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    RSC Hunter. If you could, can you please let us know what you find out?

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    I contacted the Land & Resources Specialist for the Chugach Alaska Corporation, this is what I got about hunting Galena Bay

    "If you are wanting to hunt on Native Corporation land in Galena Bay (nearly all of the uplands are owned by Tatitlek Corporation), then you would need the landowner's permission. I do not know if Tatitlek is permitting sport hunting in this area or not. You will need to contact Tatitlek to see."

    What do you think is meant by "uplands", we're planning on hunting the beachs and waterline area. Maybe spliting hairs here.

    Not sure how to contact Tatitlek corporation or even if it is worth it.


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    I have a source to check and see what "uplands" means. He may not get back to me untill tomorrow but he will give me an answer.

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    I got the telephone numer - I will call tomorrow and post the findings regarding land use permit for Galena.

    Got distracted this afternoon, but will call tomorrow.

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    Default Uplands

    I also will be interested in finding out (from Dave) the definition of "uplands". Thanks in advance for getting this defined.

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    The number over there is: 907-325-2311 for the tribal government office. I do not have an outside line at work in my office.

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    Uplands = Above mean (average) high tide.

    Actually, there is more to it than that, and unless you are well versed in littoral and game laws, it is very easy to misinterpret "rules of thumb" and end up in trespass. If you are unsure, I would forgo hunting those areas and go to State Land or Forest Service land in the area. Transporters and Guides cannot work the below mean high tide areas if the adjacent upland owner owns 5,000 or more acres, without the upland owner's permission. At least that is my understanding according to the BGCS Board policies and regs.
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    I left a voicemail at the Tatitlek Corporation a couple of hours ago regarding land use permits for hunting in Galena Bay. I will post their reply if they return my call.

    I think I will heed DPhillips advice and stay out of Galena Bay. I am visiting the area to enjoy myself and experience the beauty of the area (and of course hunt bear) - the last thing I want is to have my trip ruined with trespass issues.

    Plus I am one less person to compete with for you brave souls that venture into Galena Bay.

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    This is from the biologist in Cordova.

    Hi Tony,

    Mean high tide is correct. North of Galena Bay there is National Forest above Tatitlek lands which can be accessed without a permit on 2 easement trails, EIN 4a at Indian River and EIN 29 starting at Duck Lagoon. I doubt that spring bear hunters would tackle that, although goat hunters do. The Commercial Services Board recently passed a regulation prohibiting guides from hunting state tidelands without an upland permit from the land owner/manager. Private hunters can still hunt state tidelands without an upland permit, but if they shoot a bear above mean high tide in Galena Bay they are trespassing on Tatitlek lands.

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    Default Land Use Permit - Hunting on Corp Land - Galena Bay

    I spoke with a very nice gentleman at the Tatitlek Corporation - he said they do not offer use permits for hunting on their Corporation lands. He said they have contracted with a Guide Service (did not say who) that organizes hunts in Galena Bay for Corporation Members. End of Story.

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