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    Question Possible New Fishing Guide Requirements

    First I'm going to apologize for the length post but I got this from a Charter Captain that is sitting on this board. Does anyone else know that this is in the works? I did remove violations and penalties..if anyone wants those I can PM them.


    ARTICLE 1. SPORT FISHING GUIDES, OUTFITTERS, ASSISTANT GUIDES AND TRANSPORTERS
    Sec. 08.54.591. Creation and membership of board.
    (a) For the purposes of licensing and regulating the activities of providers of sport fishing guide, outfitter, and transporter services to sport fishermen in the interest of the state's fisheries resources, there is created the Sport Fishing Guide Services Board. For administrative purposes, the board is in the Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development.
    (b) The board shall consist of nine members as follows:
    (1) Five members who are currently licensed spot fishing guide-outfitters or sport fishing outfitters under this article, both salt water and fresh water sport fishing guide-outfitters are represented; at least three of the five must be currently licensed sport fishing guide-outfitters;
    (2) one member who is a currently licensed sport fishing transporter under this article;
    (3) one member of the Board of Fisheries who is chosen by the Board of Fisheries and who does not hold a current license issued under this article; and
    (4) two public members who must be familiar with the Alaskan sport fishing industry but who do not hold a current license issued under this article.
    Sec. 08.54.595. Board assistance.
    (a) State agencies shall provide the board with information, data, or technical assistance requested by the board for the purposes of licensing and regulating the activities of providers of sport fishing guide services to sport fishermen.
    Sec. 08.54.600. Duties of board.
    (a) The board shall
    (1) prepare and grade
    (A) write a qualification examination for a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, and assistant guide license that requires demonstration that the applicant is qualified generally to provide sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, and assistant guide activities and, in particular, possesses knowledge of fishing and sport fish laws and regulations; and
    (B) a certification examination for each Sport Fish Guide Use Unit in which the sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, or assistant guide intends to provide services in; the examination must require demonstration that the applicant is qualified to provide sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, or assistant guide services in the Sport Fish Guide Use Unit for which the applicant seeks to be certified and, in particular, must require demonstration that the applicant possesses knowledge of the terrain, waters, transportation problems, fish, and other characteristics of the Sport Fish Guide Use Unit;
    (2) authorize the issuance of sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, and transporter licenses after the applicant for the license satisfies the requirements for the license;
    (3) impose appropriate disciplinary sanctions on a licensee under AS 08.54.600 - 08.54.790;
    (4) require an applicant for issuance or renewal of any class of license issued under this article to state in a written and signed document whether the applicant's right to obtain, or exercise the privileges granted by, a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transportation license is revoked or suspended in this state or another state or in Canada;
    (5) regularly disseminate information regarding examinations and other qualifications for all classes of licenses described in this article;
    (6) adopt procedural and substantive regulations required by this chapter; currently authorizes all of 12 AAC 75.00;
    (7) provide for administration of examinations for sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, and assistant guide-outfitter licenses at least twice a year; and
    (8) meet at least twice annually.
    (b) The board shall provide for administration of an oral examination for a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, and assistant guide license or for a Sport Fish Guide Use Unit certification if requested at the time of application for the license.
    (c) The board may adopt regulations as the board considers appropriate to
    (1) establish a code of ethics for professions regulated by the board;
    (2) authorize the department to obtain a copy of a sport fish guide-outfitter logbooks or outfitter service records from the Department of Fish & Game;
    (3) establish Sport Fish Guide Use Units and licensing requirements for these units;
    (4) establish maximum levels of certified licensees in Sport Fish Guide Use Units as necessary for resource conservation purposes and/or to promote economic viability within the sport fish guide industry and establish a concessionaire program to limit participation within Sport Fish Guide Use Units when necessary.
    (5) establish regulations that will bring persons, who in the past, provided sport fishing guide-operator, assistant guide, outfitter or transporter services as defined in current statute and regulation into compliance with new statutes and regulations pertaining to such and establish a time-frame and criteria for doing so.
    Sec. 08.54.605. Eligibility for licenses.
    (a) Notwithstanding AS 08.54.610, 08.54.620, 08.54.630, 08.54.650, and 08.54.660, a person may not receive or renew a sport fish guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transporter license if
    (1) the person has been convicted of
    (A) a violation of a state or federal sport fishing, guiding, or transportation services statute or regulation for which
    (i) the person has been convicted of 2 or more Class A misdemeanor offenses within the previous 12 months;
    (ii) the person has been convicted of 4 or more Class A misdemeanor offenses within the previous 36 months;
    (B) a felony offense against the person under AS 11.41, or similar laws of other states, within the last 10 years; or
    (2) the person's right to obtain, or exercise the privileges granted by, a sport fishing guiding, outfitting, assistant guide, or transportation services license or registration is suspended or revoked in this state or another state or in Canada or Mexico.
    (b) A person may not receive a certification for a Sport Fish Guide Use Unit if the person is prohibited by (a) of this section from receiving or renewing a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transporter.
    Sec. 08.54.610. Sport fishing guide-outfitter license.
    (a) A natural person may obtain an annual sport fishing guide-outfitter license if the person:
    (1) is a citizen of the United States, Canada, or Mexico, or is a resident alien;
    (2) is certified in first aid by the American Red Cross or a similar organization;
    (3) holds a license to carry passengers for hire issued by the United States Coast Guard if the person operates a vessel in the provision of sport fishing guide services and the license is required by the United States Coast Guard for the area in which the sport fishing guide-outfitter provides sport fishing guide services;
    (4) holds a current sport fishing license from this state;
    (5) has provided proof of financial responsibility if required by the department under AS 08.54.680 ; and
    (6) has passed a certification examination prepared by the board for at least one sport fish Guide Use unit that demonstrates practical experience in the handling of sport fishing equipment and techniques, vessels, proper care of catch, safety, first aid, photography, and related guiding and outfitting activities (in the field or on the water);
    (7) has been licensed as and performed the services of a sport fishing assistant guide in the state for a part of each of three years and received a favorable recommendation from at least one licensed sport fishing guide-outfitters;
    (8) has been favorably recommended in writing by ten sport fishing clients whose recommendations have been solicited by the department from a list provided by the applicant, including at least two favorable recommendations for each year of any three years during which the person was a sport fish assistant guide;
    (9) satisfies all additional requirements adopted in regulation by the Sport Fishing Guide Services Board.
    (10) has applied for a sport fishing guide-outfitter license on a form provided by the department and paid the license application fee and the sport fishing guide-outfitter license fee.
    (b) A person may not provide sport fishing guide-outfitter services unless the person holds a current sport fishing guide-outfitter license;
    (c) A sport fishing guide-outfitter may guide or outfit sport fishing activities and may provide transportation services, personally or through a sport fish assistant guide, to sport fishermen who are clients of the sport fishing guide-outfitter.
    (d) A person who is licensed as a sport fishing guide-outfitter may be employed by another sport fishing guide-outfitter to perform the functions of a sport fishing guide-outfitter to guide in the Sport Fish Guide Use Unit for which the person is certified as a sport fish assistant guide in any Sport Fish Guide Use Unit. A sport fishing guide-outfitter can be a sport fishing assistant guide in any unit.
    (e) A sport fishing guide-outfitter shall be
    (1) physically present with the client for any portion of the day that the client engages in sport fishing activities; and
    (2) participating in the sport fishing activities, unless the sport fishing activity is being conducted by a sport fish assistant guide or sport fishing guide-outfitter who is not certified for the Sport Fishing Guide Use Unit that is employed by a certified sport fishing guide-outfitter.
    (f) While engaged in providing sport fishing guide-outfitter services, a sport fishing guide-outfitter shall have readily available for inspection
    (1) a current sport fishing guide-outfitter license;
    (2) the current licenses, tags, permits and reporting forms that are required to engage in the sport fishery for which the sport fishing guide services are being provided;
    (3) a driver's license or similar identification card that is issued by a state or federal agency and that bears a photograph of the sport fishing guide-outfitter;
    (g) A master sport fishing guide-outfitter license authorizes a sport fishing guide-outfitter to use the title master sport fishing guide-outfitter, but is for all other purposes under this chapter a sport fishing guide-outfitter license. A natural person is entitled to receive a renewable master sport fishing guide-outfitter license if the person
    (1) is, at the time of application for a master sport fishing guide-outfitter license, currently licensed as a sport fishing guide-outfitter under this section;
    (2) has been licensed in this state as a sport fishing guide under AS 16.40.260 or AS 16.40.270 or a sport fishing guide-outfitter, for at least 12 of the last 15 years, including the year immediately preceding the year in which the person applies for a master sport fishing guide-outfitter license;
    (3) submits a list to the department of at least 25 clients for whom the person has personally provided sport fishing guiding or outfitting services and the person receives a favorable evaluation from 10 of the clients selected from the list by the department; and
    (4) applies for a master sport fishing guide-outfitter license on a form provided by the department and pays the application fee, if any.
    Sec. 08.54.620. Sport fishing outfitter license.
    (a) A natural person may obtain an annual sport fishing outfitter license if the person:
    (1) is a citizen of the United States, Canada, or Mexico, or is a resident alien;
    (2) is certified in first aid by the American Red Cross or a similar organization;
    (3) holds a current sport fishing license from this state;
    (4) has provided proof of financial responsibility if required by the department under AS 08.54.680 ; and
    (5) has passed a certification examination prepared by the board for at least one Sport Fish Guide Use Unit that demonstrates practical experience in the handling of sport fishing equipment and techniques, vessels, proper care of catch, safety, first aid, photography, and related guiding and outfitting activities (in the field or on the water);
    (6) satisfies all additional requirements adopted in regulation by the Sport Fishing Guide Services Board.
    (7) has applied for a sport fishing outfitter license on a form provided by the department and paid the license application fee and the sport fishing outfitter license fee.
    (b) A person may not provide sport fishing outfitter services unless the person holds a current sport fishing outfitter license;
    (c) A sport fishing outfitter may not provide sport fishing guide-outfitter services or provide transportation services, personally or through a sport fish assistant guide.
    (d) A sport fishing outfitter shall not be physically present with the client during any portion of the sport fishing activities.
    (e) A sport fishing outfitter shall provide an activity report on a form provided by the Department of Fish and Game. An activity report must contain all information required by the Department of Fish and Game.
    (f) While engaged in providing sport fishing outfitting services, a sport fishing outfitter shall have readily available for inspection
    (1) a current sport fishing outfitter license;
    (2) a driver's license or similar identification card that is issued by a state or federal agency and that bears a photograph of the sport fishing outfitter;
    Sec. 08.54.630. Assistant sport fishing guide license.
    (a) A natural person is entitled to an assistant sport fishing guide license if the person
    (1) is a citizen of the United States, Canada, or Mexico, or is a resident alien;
    (2) possesses a current first aid card issued by the Red Cross or a similar organization;
    (3) holds a license to carry passengers for hire issued by the United States Coast Guard if the person operates a vessel in the provision of sport fishing guide services and the license is required by the United States Coast Guard for the area in which the sport fishing assistant guide provides sport fishing guide services;
    (4) holds a current sport fishing license from this state;
    (5) has passed a certification examination prepared by the board for at least one Sport Fish Guide Use Unit that demonstrates practical experience in the handling of sport fishing equipment and techniques, vessels, proper care of catch, safety, first aid, photography, and related guiding and outfitting activities (in the field or on the water);
    (6) either
    (A) obtains a written recommendation from a currently licensed sport fishing guide-outfitter who intends to employ the person as an assistant sport fishing guide; or
    (B) provides evidence that the person passed an assistant sport fishing guide training course approved by the board;
    (7) satisfies all additional requirements adopted in regulation by the Sport Fishing Guide Services Board; and
    (8) applies for an assistant sport fishing guide-outfitter license on a form provided by the department and pays the license application fee and the license fee.
    (b) An assistant sport fishing guide
    (1) may not contract or book to guide or outfit sport fishing activities;
    (2) shall be employed by a currently licensed sport fishing guide-outfitter and under the supervision of the sport fishing guide-outfitter while the assistant sport fishing guide is participating in a guided sport fishing activity.
    (c) While providing assistant sport fishing guide services, an assistant sport fishing guide shall have readily available for inspection
    (1) a current assistant sport fishing guide license;
    (2) the current licenses, tags, permits and reporting forms that are required to engage in the sport fishery for which the assistant sport fishing guide services are being provided;
    (3) a driver's license or similar identification card that is issued by a state or federal agency and that bears a photograph of the assistant sport fishing guide; and
    (4) proof of employment by a currently licensed sport fishing guide.
    Sec. 08.54.650. Sport Fishing Transporter license.
    (a) A person is entitled to a sport fishing transporter license if the person is a licensed Big Game transporter under AS 08.54.650 or
    (1) applies for a sport fishing transporter license on a form provided by the department; and
    (2) pays the license application fee and the license fee.
    (b) A sport fishing transporter may provide transportation services and accommodations to sport fishermen at a permanent lodge, house, or cabin owned by the transporter or on a vessel with permanent living quarters located on water. A sport fishing transporter may not provide sport fishing guide-outfitter or sport fishing outfitter services without holding the appropriate licenses.
    (c) A sport fishing transporter shall provide an activity report on a form provided by the department. An activity report must contain all information required by the board by regulation.
    (d) While providing transporting services, a sport fishing transporter shall have readily available for inspection
    (1) a current sport fishing transporter license;
    (2) a driver's license or similar identification card that is issued by a state or federal agency and that bears a photograph of the sport fishing transporter;
    Sec. 08.54.660. Renewal of sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, and transporter licenses.
    (a) An applicant for renewal of a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transporter license shall submit
    (1) a request for renewal of the license on a form provided by the Department; and
    (2) the appropriate license fees for the next licensing period.
    (b) The department may not renew a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transporter license under this section unless all fees have been paid in full and the sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transporter has signed an affidavit that all required logbooks and reports due during the term of the prior license have been filed as required.
    Sec. 08.54.670. Failure to renew.
    (a) The department may not issue a license to a person who held a sport fishing guide-outfitter, outfitter, assistant guide, or transporter license and who has failed to renew the license under this chapter for four consecutive years unless the person again meets the qualifications for initial issuance of the license.
    Sec. 08.54.680. Financial responsibility and other requirements for sport fishing guide-outfitters, outfitters, and transporters.
    (a) The department requires satisfactory proof of sport fishing guide-outfitters, outfitters, and transporters of a general liability insurance policy or marine protection and indemnity insurance policy, covering the services provided by the person and the person's employees to sport fishermen, that provides coverage of at least $100,000 for each incident, and $300,000 for all incidents in a year;
    (b) If a sport fishing guide-outfitter, or assistant guide personally pilots an aircraft to transport clients during the provision of sport fishing activities, the sport fishing guide-outfitter, or assistant guide shall have a commercial pilot's rating or a minimum of 500 hours of flying time in the state.

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    Default Are you kidding me?

    Do we really need more god #### son of a ####### state regulation and interference? I am so sick of it I can't see straight. Every time you turn around there's more #$%$%$#@$ regulation. For god's sake you need a license to cut god #### hair. I try not to pay attention to anything that has to do with the government or state institutions but you can't get far enough away from these scumbag, vision less, bureaucrats that micro manage everything. It will never end! Do you know how many hoops we have to jump through to simply take a few people out on fishing charters a year? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IT'S FISHING. It is simply fishing and hunting. How more complicated can we make it.
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    non-resident guides! If you can not hold a resident fishing or hunting license then you can't be a guide in Alaska.

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    Default they missed a couple of things

    like the nonresident must be guided regs

    the licensing fees (budget) to cover the cost associated with the board

    commercial interest in a public resource.........the taxes guides pay to the State on the take

    the number of clients a guide or assistant guide can "guide"

    umm I am sure there is more..........but all in all its a good start on covering the Big Game Commercial Hunting Guides butt.......they want to take the attention off of what they are getting away with.........in case ya don't know


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    Default Why the interest in this now?

    I want to know why the interest in this now?

    Someone mount a reasonable argument as to why fishing guides need a license and the rest of the nonsense that goes with it?

    When does it end? When will this garbage ever end?

    We have to obtain business licenses, sport fishing license, sport fishing business license, resale tax certificates, DOT oversize permits, pay unemployment taxes, pay local business licenses, pay Worksafe for drug tests, and other fees I can't think of right now, ALL FOR THE PRIVILEGE FOR THEM TO TAKE MORE MONEY FROM ME IN TAXES TO SPEND IT ON S#@# THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH OR ENDORSE!!!!!!

    I can't wait for the day when it all comes down, maybe then I will actually begin to have a little bit of faith, until then I have zero faith in any of these institutions that have zero warm, intelligence, vision, heart, or genuine interest in doing the right thing.

    I try and stay out of having to deal with any of this nonsense and you'd think coming up to Alaska and doing something you love such as fishing, hunting, and the outdoors would get you out of having to deal with man's b.s. and garbage, yet it's overwhelming up here. Every time you turn around there's the hand of man trying to stick his fat, grubby fingers into your business. Christ, man we just want to fish, hunt and enjoy the outdoors without any interference, on some reasonable level.
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    A person would have to be blind to not know this was coming .... what do you think the log books were about .... and the guide license that have been required for the last several years.

    You cannot limit the license to AK residents only ... that would be illeagle ...

    This is mirrored after the Hunting Guide system.

    There has been a call to limit the Charter fleet for years .... there you have it ....

    Especially since the Commercial boys have lost quite a lot of their IFQ poundage to the Charter fleet.

    How can anyone be surprised ?

    Just think about places like Craig where in 1980 there was like 2 or 4 Charter boats and now what do they have like over 200 charter boats fishing those waters.

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    Default Nothing surprises me

    To tell the truth, nothing surprises me anymore.
    I wouldn't be surprised if they told us we couldn't hunt or fish anymore.
    I wouldn't be surprised if the told us we now need a permit to blink our eyelids. I wouldn't be surprised if they told us sex was now illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if they told us we had to paint our toe nails half pink and half orange and that some people would think it was a good idea. I am not even surprised when someone says are you surprised.

    I pray for the day when it all comes down, I sincerely hope I am around for the entire super structure to cave in on itself, to completely deconstruct and start over, maybe it would be better, maybe it would be worse, but one thing for sure it would sure something real would change for once. I love how America pats itself on the back for being a free country, it's a joke.
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    Many states already require fishing guides licenses and some regulate the number issued .... not just saltwater but upland states as well ....

    Some have very healthy fees also ....

    Nothing new ...

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    Default Like I said

    Like I said nothing surprises me. Well, if those states are doing it, why aren't we? What else can we do that other states are doing? What I am questioning is where does it end? Do you think it will end with the latest in micromanagement? I would bet my life it won't, then where from there? What's the country going to be like for my boys? Makes me sick, utterly sick.


    How can young, passionate entrepreneurs get into the business of doing something they love such as fishing and the outdoors?
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    Default too little ... too late

    Some states even require a seperate license for different types of fishing .... i don't mean just freshwater and salt ... I mean different species ....

    The Commercial fishermen have always had the political clout in AK. When the Charter industry started chipping away at their livelihood ... then this is going to happen ... just like the 1 Halibut limit per day for the non-res that is about to become law.

    The Comm fishermen have mostly always been very organized in their industry ... Sport Guides are now trying to organize but I am afraid it is just too little too late.

    Take for instance in Craig (again) or Ketchikan the Charter guides cannot even get along with one another. Not untill just this week was KETCHIKAN GUIDED SPORTFISH ASSOCIATION .... A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION .... had a publicized meeting trying to get things going ...

    You think that all those Lodge owners on Prince of Wales Island are speaking in one voice ... not!!!!!

    What Sportfish Guide Association do you belong to .... ?

    Ask any Commercial Fisherman that and they usually belong to several !!!! I do believe they have their own BANK !!!!!

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    Default You're Right

    You're right. I need to find this news letter that a charter guy emailed me form Craig. It's unbelievable how corrupt the industry is. When I have time I'll post the entire deal.


    Vision, integrity, character has nothing to do with the making of regulations or laws. Yet, everyone just accepts it.
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    If you think that the Charter industry has "Vision, integrity, character" you sure haven't been around long ..... or the Charter industry up there on the Kenai is allot different than it is around these parts !!!!

    "How can young, passionate entrepreneurs get into the business of doing something they love such as fishing and the outdoors?"

    By playing the game .... just like you and I have !!!!

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    Default Reasonable....it is not.

    Quote Originally Posted by theilercabin View Post
    I want to know why the interest in this now?
    Now, the commercial hunting regulations; or as I like to refer to it as THE BULL SYSTEM is infecting sport fish too.

    Not many see the impact of "licensing guides" and "regulating business" and "controlling the resource allocation" as separate portions; best regulated individually.

    This new proposed board is bad news. Separating fishing business from hunting business is the systemic problem of this whole "mess".

    Ask the question; What have the commercial hunting regulations accomplished and how have they contributed to resource conservation?

    Then ask the question; Why is the legislation proposed separating the licensing of hunting guides and fishing guides; and for that matter the "business" of hunting from fishing.

    Is regulating the business of transportation and outfitting a "different" business because one is fish and the other is hunting?

    Of course the answer is no; their are both (hunting and fishing industries) categorically the SAME.

    The commercial hunting industry realizes that and they want to keep it that way. The alternative was to consider regulating the hunting/guiding business like the fishing/guiding business.

    To put it another way; unless the business of sport fishing is regulated like the business of commercial hunting then hunting would become a "sport"; regulated like sport fishing.

    So "why now" is because the fishing guide licensing regulations is a diversion that the commercial hunting industry needs to hold its ground. The effects of the commercial hunting guide industry artificially spawned the "need" for the proposed regulations for the sport fish industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by theilercabin View Post
    Someone mount a reasonable argument as to why fishing guides need a license and the rest of the nonsense that goes with it?
    There is no reasonable argument for the proposed legislation.....but it is going to happen anyway if residents don't wake up.

    The reasonable argument to make is; this proposed legislation and the commercial hunting regulations as implemented are inconsistent and do not, have not and will not accomplish any sincere public purpose.

    Guides probably should meet a standard licensing qualification; wildlife viewing guides, river runners guides, mountain climbing guides, hunting guides, fishing guides...........to guide is to guide.

    "Guiding" is not a business; it is a job. It does not require any (significant) investment in equipment or infrastructure. Getting a guide license and performing the duties of a "guide" is like getting a pilot license and performing the duties of a pilot. It is an occupation; not a business.

    Outfitting and transportation service providers and lodges or hotels are different categories of businesses that must meet certain standards too. Mixing them with all this "guide" licensing stuff is what makes THE BULL SYSTEM; the bull system.

    Getting sport guided commercial fishing regulations to adopt and operate by the commercial hunting regulations is a tactical advantage to extending the operating life of the existing commercial hunting regulations and avoiding the "tax" issue too.

    Who's going to make a case to the legislature and stop this. No one is my guess; so it is very likely going to happen just as it is laid out.


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    Default First of all

    Quote Originally Posted by muskeg View Post
    If you think that the Charter industry has "Vision, integrity, character" you sure haven't been around long ..... or the Charter industry up there on the Kenai is allot different than it is around these parts !!!!

    "How can young, passionate entrepreneurs get into the business of doing something they love such as fishing and the outdoors?"

    By playing the game .... just like you and I have !!!!

    No, actually I don't, but I certainly appreciate you putting words in my mouth and making assumptions, that must work out well for you.

    There's going to come a time when that ain't gonna be able to happen. It's **** near that time, with the moratorium and other regulations, it will make it near impossible for fresh blood to get into the business and that's sad.
    I'd rather not play the game. I'd rather just do the right thing by people and take them out fishing and create a good, positive experience for them. How hard is it, really?
    Marc Theiler

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    Default Legislation

    You certainly won't be able to depend on the legislation. Seriously how many in the last 5 year alone have been brought up on charges or are being investigated?

    The only chance the sportfishing guide/charter business has is to organize very quickly and pour HUGE amounts of money into "lobbying" aka bribing these lowlife scumbags.

    Consider this:

    The Chairman of the Board of the NPFMC is Mr. David Benton; Benton has been the Chairman for quite a long time. Benton is the CEO of LFS, Inc. of Bellingham, Washington which is owned by Trident Seafood's of Seattle, Washington which is one of the larges commercial fishing and processing companies in Alaska (BASED IN SEATTLE). Trident Seafood's operates a 120' vessel out of Craig called the Annandale. The Annandale is a motor yacht that carries aboard two 24' sportfishing boats. The Annandale does two sport fishing trips per week, all for free. Guest aboard the Annandale have included President Bush, both Jr and Sr in 2005, Senator/Governor Frank Murkowski on multiple occasions, according to some crew members they have catered to just about everyone who is anyone from the board of directors of NPFMC to policy making folks with the National Marine Fisheries Services to the US Department of Commerce, congressman, Senators, their families and more. ALL FOR FREE.

    How can the sportfishing guide/charter industry get a fair deal from the NPFMC, NMFS, or the IPHC when it appears all involved are getting bought off with free lavish sportfishing trips and more aboard the Annandale.


    In 2003, a member of the board of directors of Trident Seafood's, in a slightly heated conversation, said that Chuck (referring to Chuck Bundrant the CEO of Trident Seafood's) has the power and will slow or stop the growth of the charters (Alaska Sport Fisherman/Charter Fleet).

    The regulations and limitations aren't even coming from OUR home state. We are being controlled and bullying around by nonAlaskan corporations.
    Marc Theiler

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    Default Iphc

    Have you read the International Pacific Halibut Commission 2006 report? Page 24 slams the Alaska Sport Fisherman/Charter industry and Why? They do not want to admit that there was a day when the commercial halibut fisheries was involved in Derby type fishing; they had a short period of time to catch a large quota. They went well offshore where they knew they could catch the maximum poundage of halibut in the shortest period of time.
    Once the commercials were given their illegal IFQ, by the NPFMC, the NMFS and the IPHC, the commercials could fish at their leisure. why go out in the open seas to catch their quota and burn more fuel when they could longline in the near coastal areas traditionally used by sportfishermen, subsistence fishing, and sportfishing charters, SEVERALLY depleting these near coastal stocks. But who is the NPMFC and the IPHC blaming it on and trying to push for more stringent regulation and reduced limits that would have a huge negative impact on the sportfishermen/charter industry and Alaskan coastal communities??????

    Don't just think that the problem stops with Halibut. In 2001, the North Pacific Commercial Fleet threw overboard DEAD as by-catch 21 MILLION pounds of halibut!!! ALL DEAD!

    Try and get the NPFMC to give you a true and accurate number on the tons of salmon thrown overboard, dead? According to ADF&G biologist in the Kodiak area the number is staggering.


    And as I am sure you know, Tyson the horribly disgusting mass meat producing chicken company owns Trident Seafood.

    Excerpts taken from Alaska Fish & Game Journal
    Marc Theiler

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    Mr. Eilers that is so far off base I have to comment. You may or may not like this new reg package about guides. To somehow attempt to blame this on commercial fishers is wrong. I have refuted this before and will continue to do so, not because I support commericial fishing per say, but because I believe you must discuss truths to solve any problem.

    FACT the commercial guiding industry has grown unfettered for years and in some areas there there is a biological concern for halibut stocks.

    FACT the commerical guiding industry AS A WHOLE has fought any form of license limitations, and now is getting forced into it when they could have dealt with it themselves.

    The amount of halibut the Commercial groundfish fleet both Longline P-Cod and our trawlers have absolutely nothing to do with this. They fish in the bering sea and not Juneau. There are plenty of halibut in the bering, and the cuts and reg packages are not coming about b/c of any issue in the bering. To somehow imply otherwise is a smokescreen. Halibut MAY migrate for a long way and so some SE alaska halibut may be killed in the bering, but I can't imagine very many. I only mention it to forestall someone else.

    Just so everyone knows...
    2008 catch figures from this quarter, Longline P cod is over, and most trawl fisheries are winding down for this winter season. This is bering sea prohib informantion, not all of alaska. Also the weights are in Metric Tons. (1 metric ton about 2.2 regular tons)

    Chinook 14,534 caught of a soft cap of 29,000. (this is number of fish)

    Non-Trawl (PCod longliners and jig and pot boats) 177 MT of DEAD halibut out of a limit (hard cap) of 833 MT.

    Trawl 660 MT our of a limit of 3,400.

    This data came from NMFS catch rates on thier website and was updated on March 1.

    So I can and will find more data if needed to back up my statements that when I say bringing up Halibut bycatch as an issue in this Sport Guide mess is simply a smokescreen, and a diversion away from the real issues facing southeast today.

    Non-trawl

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    Default Council makeup and chair.

    The North Pacific Council is composed of 15 members; 11 voting and 4 non-voting. Seven of the voting members are appointed by the Secretary of Commerce upon the recommendation of the governors of Alaska and Washington. The governors must submit three names for each vacancy occurring on the Council and may indicate a preferred choice. The Governor of Alaska nominates candidates for five seats, the Governor of Washington two seats. Each member is appointed to a three-year term and may be reappointed, but may not exceed three consecutive terms. There are four mandatory voting members; they are the leading fisheries officials from the states of Alaska, Washington and Oregon and the Alaska Regional Director for the National Marine Fisheries Service. The four non-voting members are the Executive Director of the Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission, the Area Director for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Commander of the 17th Coast Guard District, and a representative from the U.S. State Department. From the voting membership, the Council elects a Chairman and Vice-Chairman to serve one-year terms.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: The following information is provided as a public service and is intended for general communication purposes. The Council does NOT accept comments via e-mail. If you wish to submit comments for inclusion in the Council family notebooks, they must be mailed or faxed to the Council office and must be received by the deadline date noticed in that meeting's agenda.

    A listing of Council Terms of Office (PDF), Financial Disclosure forms
    Name Address Phone/Fax E-mail Address Voting Bill Tweit, ALT for Jeff Koenings Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife
    600 Capitol Way N
    Olympia, WA 98501-1091
    Ph (360) 902-2723
    Fx (360) 902-2207
    tweitwmt@dfw.wa.gov
    Voting Balsiger, Jim
    Alternate: Sue Salveson
    NOAA Fisheries
    PO Box 21668
    Juneau, AK 99802
    Ph (907) 586-7221
    Fx (907) 586-7249
    Jim.Balsiger@noaa.gov
    Sue.Salveson@noaa.gov
    Voting Roy Hyder, ALT for
    Moore, Virgil Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife
    3899 SW. Eureka Lane
    Madras, OR 97741
    Ph (541) 546-3097
    hyderrh@madras.net Voting Benson, Dave LFS Inc.
    851 Coho Way
    Bellingham, WA. 98225 (206) 783-3818
    Fx (206)781-7883
    dbenson@lfsinc.com Voting Bundy, John
    Vice-Chair
    Glacier Fish Company
    1200 Westlake Ave. North, Suite
    900
    Seattle, WA 98109
    Ph (206) 298-1200
    Fx (206) 298-4750
    John@glacierfish.com Voting Cotten, Sam PO BOX 296
    Eagle River, AK 99577
    907-696-2581 samc.er@gci.net Voting Dersham, Ed PO BOX 537
    Anchor Point, AK 99556
    907-235-5522 edd@alaska.net Voting Lloyd, Denby Alaska Dept of Fish & Game
    PO Box 25526
    Juneau, AK 99802
    Ph (907) 465-4100
    Fx (907) 465-2332
    denby_lloyd@fishgame.state.ak.us Voting Merrigan, Gerry Prowler Fisheries
    PO Box 1989
    Petersburg, AK 99833 Ph (907) 772-4835
    Fx (907) 772-9385 merrigan@gci.net Greg Balough ALT for
    Tom Melius
    US Fish & Wildlife Service
    1011 E. Tudor Road,
    Anchorage, Alaska 99503
    Ph (907) 786-3619
    Fx (907) 786-3848
    greg_balough@fws.gov Voting Fields, Duncan Shoreside Consulting
    4022 Cliffside Rd
    Kodiak, AK 99615
    907-486-8835
    Fx: 907-486-8836
    dfields@ptialaska.net Hanson, Dave Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission
    45 SE 82nd Drive, Suite 100
    Gladstone, OR 97027
    Ph (503) 650-5400
    Fx (503) 650-5426
    dave_hanson@psmfc.org Voting Olson, Eric
    (Chairman)
    Kwikpak Fisheries
    1016 West 6th Avenue, Suite 301
    Anchorage, AK 99501
    (907) 644-0326
    Fx (907) 644-0327
    eolson@gci.net

    Johnson-Miller, Amanda ALT: Ricci, Nicole
    Office of Marine Conservation
    Bureau of Oceans & Int'l Environ. & Scientific Affairs
    Dept of State, Room 7820
    Washington, DC 20520
    Ph (202) 647-3941
    Fx (202) 736-7350
    riccinm@state.gov ADM Gene Brooks; Alt: LCDR Lisa Ragone
    17th Coast Guard District, MPO
    PO Box 25517
    Juneau, AK 99802
    Ph907)463-2223
    Fx
    (907) 463-2216 Lisa.a.ragone@uscg.mil
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    Default Council makeup and chair.

    The North Pacific Council is composed of 15 members; 11 voting and 4 non-voting. Seven of the voting members are appointed by the Secretary of Commerce upon the recommendation of the governors of Alaska and Washington. The governors must submit three names for each vacancy occurring on the Council and may indicate a preferred choice. The Governor of Alaska nominates candidates for five seats, the Governor of Washington two seats. Each member is appointed to a three-year term and may be reappointed, but may not exceed three consecutive terms. There are four mandatory voting members; they are the leading fisheries officials from the states of Alaska, Washington and Oregon and the Alaska Regional Director for the National Marine Fisheries Service. The four non-voting members are the Executive Director of the Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission, the Area Director for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Commander of the 17th Coast Guard District, and a representative from the U.S. State Department. From the voting membership, the Council elects a Chairman and Vice-Chairman to serve one-year terms.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: The following information is provided as a public service and is intended for general communication purposes. The Council does NOT accept comments via e-mail. If you wish to submit comments for inclusion in the Council family notebooks, they must be mailed or faxed to the Council office and must be received by the deadline date noticed in that meeting's agenda.

    A listing of Council Terms of Office (PDF), Financial Disclosure forms
    Name Address Phone/Fax E-mail Address Voting Bill Tweit, ALT for Jeff Koenings Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife
    600 Capitol Way N
    Olympia, WA 98501-1091
    Ph (360) 902-2723
    Fx (360) 902-2207
    tweitwmt@dfw.wa.gov
    Voting Balsiger, Jim
    Alternate: Sue Salveson
    NOAA Fisheries
    PO Box 21668
    Juneau, AK 99802
    Ph (907) 586-7221
    Fx (907) 586-7249
    Jim.Balsiger@noaa.gov
    Sue.Salveson@noaa.gov
    Voting Roy Hyder, ALT for
    Moore, Virgil Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife
    3899 SW. Eureka Lane
    Madras, OR 97741
    Ph (541) 546-3097
    hyderrh@madras.net Voting Benson, Dave LFS Inc.
    851 Coho Way
    Bellingham, WA. 98225 (206) 783-3818
    Fx (206)781-7883
    dbenson@lfsinc.com Voting Bundy, John
    Vice-Chair
    Glacier Fish Company
    1200 Westlake Ave. North, Suite
    900
    Seattle, WA 98109
    Ph (206) 298-1200
    Fx (206) 298-4750
    John@glacierfish.com Voting Cotten, Sam PO BOX 296
    Eagle River, AK 99577
    907-696-2581 samc.er@gci.net Voting Dersham, Ed PO BOX 537
    Anchor Point, AK 99556
    907-235-5522 edd@alaska.net Voting Lloyd, Denby Alaska Dept of Fish & Game
    PO Box 25526
    Juneau, AK 99802
    Ph (907) 465-4100
    Fx (907) 465-2332
    denby_lloyd@fishgame.state.ak.us Voting Merrigan, Gerry Prowler Fisheries
    PO Box 1989
    Petersburg, AK 99833 Ph (907) 772-4835
    Fx (907) 772-9385 merrigan@gci.net Greg Balough ALT for
    Tom Melius
    US Fish & Wildlife Service
    1011 E. Tudor Road,
    Anchorage, Alaska 99503
    Ph (907) 786-3619
    Fx (907) 786-3848
    greg_balough@fws.gov Voting Fields, Duncan Shoreside Consulting
    4022 Cliffside Rd
    Kodiak, AK 99615
    907-486-8835
    Fx: 907-486-8836
    dfields@ptialaska.net Hanson, Dave Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission
    45 SE 82nd Drive, Suite 100
    Gladstone, OR 97027
    Ph (503) 650-5400
    Fx (503) 650-5426
    dave_hanson@psmfc.org Voting Olson, Eric
    (Chairman)
    Kwikpak Fisheries
    1016 West 6th Avenue, Suite 301
    Anchorage, AK 99501
    (907) 644-0326
    Fx (907) 644-0327
    eolson@gci.net

    Johnson-Miller, Amanda ALT: Ricci, Nicole
    Office of Marine Conservation
    Bureau of Oceans & Int'l Environ. & Scientific Affairs
    Dept of State, Room 7820
    Washington, DC 20520
    Ph (202) 647-3941
    Fx (202) 736-7350
    riccinm@state.gov ADM Gene Brooks; Alt: LCDR Lisa Ragone
    17th Coast Guard District, MPO
    PO Box 25517
    Juneau, AK 99802
    Ph907)463-2223
    Fx
    (907) 463-2216 Lisa.a.ragone@uscg.mil
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    Very hard to read sorry, but ERIC OLSON is the chair. Also note the council voting members are now over 50% alaskan interests.

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    How many Charter representatives or Sportfishing guide representatives sit on this board?


    Would you be willing to bet good money that there isn't possible corruption that goes on behind closed doors with regards to this board?


    I have zero trust in what they say or report.
    Marc Theiler

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