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    Default Elliott Highway/Manley Hot Springs area

    Hi everyone. I'm finally, after several years planning/saving/etc., moving up to Alaska this summer (I'm in Vermont right now) and want some relatively remote but still accessible property. I'm considering some land that's off the Elliott Highway, Manley Hot Springs is roughly 14 miles down the road. I've used google earth and topo maps and such to get a feel for the area, but none of the images were good enough to know the following: how big are the trees? Are the spruce trees in the area big enough for a small log cabin to be built from? I've heard mixed answers on this. If anyone has a picture or two of the area that would help give me a feel for the trees that'd be great too. I don't want to stick frame my cabin walls, nor would I want to buy logs. The land supposedly has a mix of white and black spruce, and birch and aspen.

    Also, a creek called Hutlinana Creek runs not too far away (relatively speaking) from the property. Anyone familiar with this creek? How big is it (wide/deep/etc.), and are there any fish in it? I understand there's also a hot spring with the same name some distance up the road (heading away from Manley).

    Finally, what are the odds a shallow hand driven well(wellpoint/sandpoint type, 20-25 feet give or take in depth) would work in the area? How high is the water table on average?

    Thanks!

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    Wink Manley Area..

    If you planning on Kentucky creek odd lots, just a word...I'd visit the land before you jump out and buy over the counter.I'ts road accessable and no telling who has been using it for a refuse area.Once you buy, you are assuming cost of any debris removal.Personally, if I was in Vermont, I'd go down to Bradford, and find a small cozy place on the Waits river.GR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovingarcher View Post
    If you planning on Kentucky creek odd lots, just a word...I'd visit the land before you jump out and buy over the counter.I'ts road accessable and no telling who has been using it for a refuse area.Once you buy, you are assuming cost of any debris removal.Personally, if I was in Vermont, I'd go down to Bradford, and find a small cozy place on the Waits river.GR
    I'm not staying in VT, I've had enough of the socialists and their sky high taxes, not to mention the sky high prices of property to begin with, among other reasons. Is it a big problem in that area, garbage being dumped? The lot I'm leaning towards is almost a mile from the road so it's not right on the road...

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    Default visit before buying

    I would visit the area before buying The money you spend on visting the area buy will be your best investment. You don't want to buy a lot in the black spruce bog, with permafrost and the biggest tree on the lot being 3 inches in diameter. Also do not trust realator pics I know one guy who went out to his remote lot and found a family building a cabin on his land.
    The realator had sold the family the lot next to his using pics of his lot as he had a nice waterfront gentle slope nice trees thier lot had a big dropoff to the lakeshore and was a lot steeper. If I were you I would move here base youself in fairbanks or anchorage and explore around before buying. I moved here from vermont 20 years ago and am still looking for a place to retire to Looking more in southern part of the state.
    Goood luck

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    Default I'll second it. visit before buying

    Real Estate should never be purchased site unseen. Buyers these days feel that they can get all the info over the internet. They feel comfortable buying the property without setting foot on it.

    You need to walk the property, smell the neighbors pig farm, feel the squishy muskeg, listen to the muffler-less trucks, taste the water before you buy.

    On the other hand...there is a slim chance it could be everything you wanted.

    I heard a story just today of someone who purchased 40 acres of pure swamp near Talkeetna sight unseen. He is now renting a property near the swamp and looking for another 40 acres of usable land to buy. No one wants to buy his swamp.
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    I'll look it over first when I get there. Has anyone bought land from the AK DNR lately? I read they have up to 120 days to process a purchase, but do they actually take that long in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASG View Post
    I'll look it over first when I get there. Has anyone bought land from the AK DNR lately? I read they have up to 120 days to process a purchase, but do they actually take that long in general?


    I purchased 5 acres from DNR up close too the area you are looking at(Deadman Lake). It took 4-5 months to get all the paperwork in place after I sent in my application and down payment.

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    Default DNR land

    As a rule, DNR says they have a minimum of 45000 sq ft of usable land per 5 acre parcel..Most of the swamp land is kept by the DNR for green Belt or buffers.Deadman Lake still has some nice land with big spruce available for a song and a dance...ok just a song.Not near the water, but the right person can deal with it.GR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovingarcher View Post
    As a rule, DNR says they have a minimum of 45000 sq ft of usable land per 5 acre parcel..Most of the swamp land is kept by the DNR for green Belt or buffers.Deadman Lake still has some nice land with big spruce available for a song and a dance...ok just a song.Not near the water, but the right person can deal with it.GR

    Yeah I picked mine because there was no lot on the right side facing the lake and no lot in front of me facing the lake. That way I don't have to worry for awhile about a neighbor on the right or in front. Still thinking about buying the lot to the left of mine.

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