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    Default Best way to get my boom sticks to AK?

    My lovely wife and I are going to take the plunge and just move up from CO. I know the Kanucks have great ideas about taxing firearms at the border and no handguns or military arms etc.
    So what is the most economical way to get them up there without breaking the bank, getting them ripped off or making our socialist neighbors get their cute little maple leaf undies in a twist?
    I need to ship 6 handguns and about 8 long guns plus ammo. I plan on jumping through the hoops to drive up with about 4 long guns, but that's it.

    Also, with ammo prices going through the roof, does it benefit me to bring as much as I can, and or ship the rest?


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    If it were me, I would build a crate, find a FFL buddy and have send it up to an FFL up here (handgun law).

    I'd get them all up here, if you dont use them, its called trading fodder for something else.

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    How are you moving your household goods? If you're doing it yourself (driving through Canada) then you will to have to ship all handguns, evil military rifles, certain shotguns, and ammo from one FFL to another. I looked into this option, but when I found out how VERY expensive it would be I decided against it.

    If you're hiring a moving company they should be able to transport your guns also. Just ask them about barging your stuff from Seattle.

    I told Mayflower about my guns and they said, it wasn't a problem. They trucked my household goods and firearms from Salt Lake City to Seattle, then barged my stuff up to Anchorage. It wasn't any more expensive to barge everything and that way nothing goes through Canada, so there's no problem with firearms laws. Now, ammo is a different story...

    Moving companys won't knowingly transport ammo, BUT what they don't know can't hurt them .

    I put all my ammo into six 50mm military steel ammo cans. Then I put the cans (wrapped in sound dampening material like clothes and blankets) in cardboard boxes marked "tools" or "books" and taped the *hit out of the boxes.

    If you're worried about your guns getting beat up do like I did: Go to Sportsmans Warehouse and buy hard-sided cases for ALL of your firearms. I also bought gun-socks for them all too, but that's up to you. KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS!!!! Once you get up here, go to SW in Anchorage and return any gun cases you no longer need, or (again, like I did) tell your wife that they would only give you in-store credit and then use the
    money to stock up on all the fishing gear you'll need for AK!

    I just did the move about 6 months ago, so if you have any questions, don't hesitate to PM me.

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    What they don't know can hurt them. Not sure what the fine is, but it is substantial if they have undeclared hazardous items and Homeland Security finds it, which they have. I would mail my long guns to myself and pick them up on the other end. Handguns you will have to go through and FFL because of the policies of the shippers, not because of the law.
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    I have drove through Canada twice with a bunch of ammo. You were allowed so many rounds that you could bring across the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackfoot View Post
    What they don't know can hurt them. Not sure what the fine is, but it is substantial if they have undeclared hazardous items and Homeland Security finds it, which they have. I would mail my long guns to myself and pick them up on the other end. Handguns you will have to go through and FFL because of the policies of the shippers, not because of the law.
    Depending on the violation most fines start around $50K per day and 5 years in jail. Shipment of hazardous goods is serious business. Department of Transportation would be the people taking you to court.
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    If I remember right it was 200 rounds per person you could bring into canada with out starting to get taxed. I got lucky and found a guy up here with a ffl and hand my gun dealer in nebraska ship them to him and he gave them to me at no charge. I had more handguns so when I flew home I brought one back on the plane and my wife just picked up another from my dad and is due home thurs. Flying is the easy way if someone you know is coming up. I brought like seven long guns through canadain customs no problem it was $25 for the permit (total). Just print and fill out the forms in triplicate and don't sign them till you get there. Stop at US Customs first and they give you a form and look at the guns (you show it to US customs when you get to alaska) Take the form to Canadian custom along with their forms no problems.

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    you can mail them to yourself
    would be the cheapest way
    I do it all the time just make sure you mail them from you to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSalt View Post
    you can mail them to yourself
    would be the cheapest way
    I do it all the time just make sure you mail them from you to you
    That is for long guns only! Handguns are FFL to FFL.

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    I'm pretty sure that's just the shipper's policies. The law does not require FFL to FFL if possesion does not change. I guess it's a mute point because none of the shippers will ship them except FFL to FFL.
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    Default Shipping guns and ammo to Alaska

    Look up the frequently asked question (FAQ) on the BATF website concerning shipping guns and ammunitions and print out a copy. You can get all sorts of mis-information otherwise! I know one store here in town is quite vocal about telling customers that they cannpt mail a gun to themselves and refuses to read the BATF literature proving otherwise.

    The BATF clearly states that is legal for a person to ship a firearm to themselves across state lines for legal use at the destination. Long guns can go by way of the Post Office but pistols cannot - you must use something like Fed Ex or UPS. READ THE BATF REGULATIONS AND BE LEGAL!

    Rule of thumb for shippng items by mover is $1 / lb. Ship all your gun and other books by media mail - should be around $20 -$25 for around 60 lbs. Ship your inert lead bullets, shot, bullet casting metal, and other dense items by Priority Mail FLAT RATE boxes - i think it is now $8.75 for up to 70 lbs. Get the minimum insurance otherwise they may toss it when someone hurts themselves lifting it! I've probabably shipped a ton or more of lead and bullets that way in the last 3 or 4 years. Pack very well - the boxes get smashed up pretty bad- I hate to think what was belwo them on the truck.

    I packed all my ammo 3 years ago in 20 mm ammo boxes and ahd it shipped up for around $1 / lb - about the same as the movers would ahve charged anyway. Consider selling the heavy stuff and buying new up here - stuff like generic .45 ammo may not be worth the cost of shipping.

    Powder for reloading is the real ***** - I sitll have a bunch down in the lower 48 I need to get shipped up here. I don't knw the restrictions on taking it through Canada and I'm afraid to even ask.

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    I brought two long guns up with me and it was not a big deal at all. just had too fill out a form and declare them. handguns it can be done just takes more time.

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    What about bringing them up on the ferry from Bellingham?

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    Call 'em. Last year I was told no problem. Hand guns must be checked by Purser. Long guns nothing needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishkill View Post
    Call 'em. Last year I was told no problem. Hand guns must be checked by Purser. Long guns nothing needed.
    When I went up last May, they only needed to be checked with the Purser was if they were not locked in the vehicle. You will be asked at the terminal if you have firearms though. See http://www.dot.state.ak.us/amhs/Trav...ils/index.html

    Transporting Firearms
    Walk-on passengers traveling with legal firearms or weapons on AMHS vessels are required to check these items with an AMHS employee. All firearms must be unloaded and ammunition stowed separately from the firearms. Unloaded firearms may be securely locked in passengers' vehicles. Please note that new laws regulating the import, export, and possession of firearms have been implemented in Canada and the U.S. Please check with Canadian or U.S. customs offices prior transporting a firearm into these countries. You can get more information by calling 1-800-731-4000 or on the Internet at [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/visitin_e.asp[/FONT]

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    Default amhs

    the best way is cross gulf on the m/v kennicott....come up on the m/v columbia from bellingham to juneau then transfer to the kennicott and get off in whittier....if the weapons are locked in hard cases they will be ok. depending on which crew is on board they will either be left locked in the vehicle or put in the ships gun safe until destination. the problem with transport through canada, is that even if you have the canadian permit the fine print says any border(custom) agent can confiscate your weapon for practically any reason...even with a canadian permit in hand....not that they will, but why take the chance that one guy pissed his wife off the night before and is in a reeaallly bad mood?

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    Can't a guy still mail himself handguns c/o someone on the other end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snyd View Post
    Can't a guy still mail himself handguns c/o someone on the other end?
    Non-FFL's can't ship them by the USPS but a non-FFL person can still ship them to themselves using a different shipper, like UPS or fedex...

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    My buddy tried it a couple of months ago but both FedEx and UPS have policies against shipping handguns without an FFL. It's not the law but the policies of the shippers.
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