Well, Snyd, I've read all your posts, here and elsewhere, about the PF65EDII, and decided to go for it .... Got one of Doug's show samples - via EBAY - with the standard XF 20x60 eyepieces, for $547! Probably will worry about a different eyepiece later. Pentax is apparently offering a new Digicam adapter for this model; like to pick one up. One of the area I hunt has nesting pairs of Trumpeter Swans on each pond. Like to take some nice pics of them, and other waterfowl. Anyway, the info you've put on here helped alert me to the bargains in good optics offered by Pentax. Tip of the hat, Snyd.