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    Default DG360 Stat's for the last 4yrs, wow!

    2004:
    Hunted- 15
    Harvest- 1

    2005:
    Hunted-10
    Harvest-3

    2006:
    Hunted-8
    Harvest-1

    2007:
    Hunted-11
    Harvest- 4

    4yrs of reports reviels:

    Permits issued- 100
    Reported they hunted- 44
    Animals harvested- 8

    Not to great of numbers, very interesting to say the least. Thanks "MARK" for teh link to the harvest link.

    Curt

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    Total goat stats for 2007 all drawing tags combined...

    877 tags
    418 did not hunt
    458 hunted

    204 total goats killed... 44.5% success rate.

    Turn out is poor, but the success rate is pretty dang decent.

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    goats ain't rocket scientists....but some of the guys that go to where they live aren't either...some say we are dumber than a box of bricks....put yourself in a bad spot..chances are there'll be a goat there with ya!
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    that area about killed me a couple of years ago! I found out better information on how to hunt it later, and at the end of the hunt on the hike out. Never seen a goat, but they were around. seen thier hair on the brush and such. Got a heckuva nice black bear up there, though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDSLDOG View Post
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    Not to great of numbers, very interesting to say the least. Thanks "MARK" for teh link to the harvest link.

    Curt
    I've searched everywhere for this link. The closest I can get is up to year 2003 on the F&G site. Where are you guys getting the up to date info? I have a DG352 permit.

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    Thanks Dave, that gives me a much better look at things. I see that in 2007 there were

    30 tags available (in DG 352)
    16 people hunted
    only 6 goats were harvested
    and here's the strange one.......all 6 were female???????????

    I wonder what's up with that?

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    For your hunt (DG 352), Nannys are legal to harvest as long as they do not have a kid with them. However, when a nanny is removed from the population it has a greater effect (potential kid production of that individual over a certain time period) on the population than if a billy is taken. Also, as the nanny gets older, her chances of being a successful mother also improve. Hope that makes sense.

    If you haven't spent some time watching or hunting goats previously, it can be challenging to tell the sexes apart at first glance.

    If you are planning on a goat hunt this coming fall I'd highly reconmend a book titled, "A Beast the Color of Winter". It is an excellent read. Some fantastic reading regarding how to distinguish between the sexes, habits, seasonal patterns, behavior etc, etc, etc.

    Good luck on the hunt.

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    my guess is that there were a lot of nannies easy to get to, and the billies were not approachable.
    i would not be surprized if in the not too distant future we see nannies off-limits and a more conservative harvest rate for billies, at least on the kenai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDSLDOG View Post
    2004:
    Hunted- 15
    Harvest- 1

    2005:
    Hunted-10
    Harvest-3

    2006:
    Hunted-8
    Harvest-1

    2007:
    Hunted-11
    Harvest- 4

    4yrs of reports reviels:

    Permits issued- 100
    Reported they hunted- 44
    Animals harvested- 8

    Not to great of numbers, very interesting to say the least. Thanks "MARK" for teh link to the harvest link.

    Curt
    Scary numbers! I can't believe that only 44% of permit holders actually took to the mountains! Are these antis filling up slots or what? You know it's the worst of both worlds if it is or it isn't...I understand things come up, but 66% or the time

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    I would hazard to guess that there are another 20% that just turn their tag in as "did not hunt" if they were unsuccessful. It would be easier than trying to explain where they hunted. People are lazy in general.

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    I've heard from a F&G biologist that they figure 1/2 will not hunt and 1/2 of those will be uccessful. This is a real loose rule-of-thumb, but it's an indication of how the number of permits allocated is figured.

    Look at DC001. Lots of permits, and when guys find out they have to carry a 'bou bull maybe 20-30 miles or have a horse, they decide not to hunt.

    Some folks win a permit in Feb. but by the time August rolls around, decide to put the time into moose instead!

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