Well I couldn't take it anymore so I threw down and bought the Exped Orion tent. I found 1 place that had them in stock and they are marked down, got it for $363 shipped to Alaska. I conversed with their USA counterpart, Outdoor Research, trying to decide if I should get one. After getting his last e-mail and with the qouted price he gave me I had to get it. This tent is suppose to combine the best of both worlds, tunnel and freestanding and came out # 1 during a 7 tent shootout in Europe. If your looking for a good tent, consider looking at one of these.