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    Question 270 Wsm

    I'm thinking about buying a 270 WSM in a Tikka T3 Lite and was wondering if anybody has any info about the caliber. Thanks

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    Default 270 Wsm

    I have been researching the same rifle today. Want to get it for the wife to hunt with. The Ballistics are awesome. Flat shooting and no one has said anything bad other the the look of the stock and trigger guard.
    http://www.cpcartridge.com/270wsmB.htm

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    Default sako barrels

    I just bought a sako fin light in 300 wsm and i love it. I have put 3/4 inch groups with it and i know it is capable of better because i have only shot 10 rounds and one kind of ammo. The tikka's have the same exact barrels as the sako so i would think you could epect the same kind of performance out of a very similar cartrage.

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    I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 300 WSM and love it. It has very little recoil and is very accurate. I don't know why I need another rifle but I think I will pick another Tikka T3 Lite up in 270 WSM. I think it would make a good sheep and caribou gun.

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    My hunting partner swears by his Kimber .270wsm. I've seen him take several whitetail (including a Sasksatchewan monster), a woodland caribou, and a Newfoundland moose that he absolutely flattened.

    He's using the Federal factory 140gr Accubond load for everything and so far I'd say it's the perfect load, as long as you're not in "big bear" (can you say ursus arctos?) country.

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    I've been eyeballin the round, but only for short actions. When you look at its standard pressures, it's easy to see how it is generating its numbers. I'm also looking at the 270 Wby mag and the plain old 270 Winnie. My choice will depend on which rifle interests me more, then which round is right for that particular rifle. If the T-3 works for you, by all means it looks like a good marriage between rifle and round. In fact, it's the rifle I've been considering if I go the WSM route.

    I'd sure pick up a set of reloading dies while you are at it, even if you don't use them for a year or two. At the price of factory ammo these days, keep saving your brass so you can move right into reloading by picking up the rest of the gear when the time is right. I'm not confident that the round is going to be around ten years from now, so the dies and accumulated brass will be doubly useful as backup for future ammo supplies.

    I'm not dissing the round in predicting it's not likely to be around 10 years from now. It's just established fact that gun and ammo manufacturers are pretty quick to drop rounds that don't meet new corporate guidelines. Some really worthy calibers have gone by the wayside in under ten years, and now exist only on reloading benches.

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    Default Why not just the .270 Win?

    450Hunter,

    Why not just save a $100 and buy the .270 Winchester that is on the forums...you can then buy the dies and some brass and keep ahold of a cartridge that has been around for over 80yrs. Might make a difference if you ever decide to sell the rifle.

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    I don't plan on getting rid of a gun when I buy one. Besides I already have a 270 Whtby Mag so it's not like i really need another 270 anyway. I'm just looking to buy another gun and I was considering the 270 WSM. I already own a 300 WSM so why not a 270 WSM.

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    The compelling reason for me to consider the 270 WSM is the potential to put together (or buy factory-made) a smaller lighter rifle that delivered more velocity, etc. In a full-sized gun, I'd stick with the 270 WM, while reaching for a 270 in something like "mountain rifle" configuration.

    I'm an old fan of the 284 Winchester in the small rifle role, but admit that it has been pretty much superceded by the 7-08. I've got a Savage 99 in 284 that has turned out to be a near-perfect combo of fast handling for close work and long range capabilities. If the 7-08 was available left-handed in Remington's neat little Model 7 without an expensive trip to their custom shop, I'd have had one of those a long time ago and happily retired the Mod 99.

    If I go for the 270 WSM, it's going to be in a short action with a light stock and a 20" barrel. Not everyone's cup of tea, but such a small light rifle meets my needs.

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    Default Ballistics

    Check the ballistics, the drop for an average 270 win 130 grain bullet at 300 yards is around 10 inches. That same 130 grain bullet shot from the 270 WSM at 300 yards will only drop around 5 inches. The 270 wsm ballistics are almost the same as a 22-250. That is one flat shooter, even at over 300 yards still has over 2000 lbs of energy to provide stopping power.

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    Steve the ballistics you point out are the reason I chose the 270WSM for my wife. I bought her a Winchester Stealth in 270WSM for Christmas 2003. She loves that rifle and is a great shot with it. The recoil is manageable for smaller framed individuals and it is a great shooting rifle.

    So far she has shot a lot of targets and one black bear. It had no problem with the black bear. The shot hit a bit forward shattering the right front shoulder going through both lungs then stuck just under the hide on the left shoulder.

    The one thing I did notice is there is more muzzle rise than I am accustomed to with my other rifles. I can not lay the forestock in my palm and squeeze the trigger or it will rise out of my palm. I have to grip it so that does not happen. Then again I am a bit used to my heavy 30-06 and 375 H&H that just lay there and push straight back against my shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 450HUNTER View Post
    I'm thinking about buying a 270 WSM in a Tikka T3 Lite and was wondering if anybody has any info about the caliber. Thanks

    You may want to do a little more reading if you are planning to buy a WSM caliber in the Tikka T3's. There are many people not reaching the advertised velocities in the WSM's in these rifles because of a long throat (200-300 fps slower then advertised).It has something to do with the T3's all being built on long actions then adjusted for the short actions.

    I cannot get to the website from my work computer,but if you go to graybeardoutdoors.com and look in the Tikka section there is a huge debate over it. Something to keep in mind if you are looking at the T3's.

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    Default FYI: Here are some actual ballistics tables

    Maybe this will help to clarify the differences (or lack of them), especially if you already have a .270 Wby Mag. While I'm always in favor of "just one more rifle" I'd move to try a different caliber or different rifle, especially if what tj says is true. Think of the new dies, bullets, powders, do-dads, gizmos and such that you can get when you jump to a new caliber! That's just me, however. Go for it if you want a new one:

    Selected .270 Comparisons MUZZLE100200300400.270 WSM (130-grain BST)Velocity3,2753,0412,8202,6092,408Energy3,0962,6692,2951,9641,673Trajectory+1.40-5.5-16.1.270 WSM (140-grain, FS)Velocity3,1252,8652,6192,3862,165Energy3,0352,5502,1321,7691,457Trajectory+1.40-6.5-19.0.270 WSM (150-grain, PP)Velocity3,1502,8672,6012,3502,113Energy3,3042,7372,2521,8391,487Trajectory+1.40-6.5-19.5.270 Win. (130-grain BST)Velocity3,0502,8282,6182,4162,224Energy2,6852,3091,9781,6851,428Trajectory+1.40-6.5-18.0.270 Win. (150-grain, PP)Velocity2,8502,5852,3442,1081,886Energy2,7052,2261,8171,4681,175Trajectory2+20-8.6-25.0.270 Wby. Mag.*(130-grain,NP)Velocity3,3753,1272,8922,6702,459Energy3,2882,8222,4152,0581,744Trajectory+1.00-5.2-15.3.270 Wby. Mag.*(150-grain,NP)Velocity3,2453,0292,8232,6272,439Energy3,5073,0552,6552,2981,981Trajectory+1.20-5.5-16.1*Figures quoted for 26-inch barrels; all others for 24-inch barrels. BST=Ballistic Silvertip
    FS=Fail Safe; PP=Power-Point; NP=Nosler Partition.

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    Default oops, that could have been...better

    try this link:

    http://www.huntingmag.com/guns_loads/super_duper/

    It may work a little better....

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    I would like to stick with the Tikka T3 Lite rifle. What would be another caliber of choice that would be fast and flat shooting in your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 450HUNTER View Post
    I would like to stick with the Tikka T3 Lite rifle. What would be another caliber of choice that would be fast and flat shooting in your opinion.

    One of the nice things about the Tikka is that the rifle weighs the same regardless of SA or LA for the most part. I mean from a 270 Win to a 270 WSM is 3oz (the WSM being heavier) and its really only in the length of the barrel because the action length is identical. The 270Win, 7mm, 300WM, 300 WSM they are all 6 and 1/2 dozen apart in ballistics, the choice in caliber is up to you. All of the above calibers will be within a couple inches of each other at 300 yards ballistically (and that number 2" can be altered with your actual sight in distance) though obviously the 7mm will shoot heavier bullets than the 270's matching ballistics and the 30's will shoot heavier bullets than the 7mm matching similar ballistics. Its a toss up in how big a bullet you want to shoot and which caliber excites you. The Tikka is offered in many calibers pick one and get after it. They are all either 6lbs 6 oz (24 3/8" barrel) or 6lbs 3 oz (22 7/16 ").

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    Quote Originally Posted by stid2677 View Post
    Check the ballistics, the drop for an average 270 win 130 grain bullet at 300 yards is around 10 inches. That same 130 grain bullet shot from the 270 WSM at 300 yards will only drop around 5 inches. The 270 wsm ballistics are almost the same as a 22-250. That is one flat shooter, even at over 300 yards still has over 2000 lbs of energy to provide stopping power.

    Steve
    According to Federal Ammunitions ballistics your quite a ways off on your 5" difference at 300 yards, I see about .9" ( the 270 WSM is 5.5" low at 300 and the 270 Win is 6.4" low at 300 both with a 200 yard zero) of difference between the 270 Win and the 270WSM both shooting 130 grain Barnes TSX's.

    Using this link

    http://www.federalcartridge.com/ball...firearm=1&s1=1

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