Brian, just to let you know..... I just tried to post another pic to a thread. I took the pic with the camera phone held upright. When it was downloaded to the pc it shows up correctly oriented. I then downloaded it to the thread and when finished downloading shows up 90 degrees off. So I went back and edited the pic by rotating it 90 degrees, downloaded it to the thread again but it did not change the pic at all. I've noticed a number of pictures people have posted that show up sideways or upside down, so I'm pretty sure there is a glitch in the forums software. Not that I expect it to be changed, just that it gets frustrating. I guess gone are the days that a person can just easily cut and paste a pic to a website. Too much tech-no involved these days. I guess a guy has to be smarter than the computer, and that I ain't......lol