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    Does anyone know how wide of a boat can be towed through Canada with out a permit? I am looking at having a new boat built and I am thinking of going with a wider beam than an 8'. I don't want the hassle of trying to get a permit to tow through Canada. Any info would be appreciated. I tow to Vancouver Island and plan to tow though Canada to Alaska on ocasion.
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    I found somethings that says 8'6" max. If I go wider than that what would I need to do to get a permit or is that possible? I could not find anything on permits.
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    I'm Towing A 8.5 Wide Cargo Trailer In A Few Days. Think You Worried About Nothing. Royal Canadian Police Do Not Have Tape Measures. I See May Large Rvs On The Road And I Doubt That They Permits.

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    I am thinking of having a boat built with a 9' beam. I am wondering if it would be easy to get a permit in Canada or not. I read their maximum is 8'6" I would hate to have a trip planned with reservations and such to be turned around at the border. In the US I can get a permit that is good for a year for next to nothing. Looking at the BC regs I can't find anything on permits for non commercial vehicles and the commercial permits all talk about semi trailers. I am looking into building a 25' aluminum catamaran with a 9' beam.
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    Here is the Canadian Rules. A couple of things to remember. Width does not include anything removalable, ie mirrors, awnings, etc. Yukon Territory is only 8'2".


    AlbertaMaximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches). Mobile living accommodations - 3.05 meters (10 feet)

    Maximum trailer height: 3.85 meters (12 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 3 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 20 meters
    (66 feet)

    Lighting: Two tail, two brake and license plate lights are required. Turn signals, clearance and side markers also required.

    Brakes: If gross laden weight of trailer is 909kg (2,004lbs) or over, or if gross trailer weight is over half that of the unit, independent braking system is required.

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Two side view mirrors are required on towing vehicles where rear view is obstructed by the trailer. Riding is allowed in truck campers.

    Additional information:
    Alberta Transportation and Utilities
    Twin Atria Building
    4999-98 Ave.
    Edmonton AB T6B 2X3



    British-
    Columbia
    Maximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 20 meters
    (66 feet)

    Lighting: Tail, brake and license plate lights are required. Turn signals are needed if the towing vehicle's signals are obstructed. Reflectors are needed. If the trailer is over 2.05meters (6 feet 7 inches) wide, two red clearance lamps on each side of the rear are required, as are two amber clearance lights near the front.

    Brakes: Independent braking system required where gross weight exceeds 1,400kg (3,087lbs) or one-half licensed weight of towing vehicle.

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Additional information:
    Insurance Corporation of British Columbia
    Commercial Transport and Inspection
    Box 3750
    Victoria BC V8W 3Y5




    ManitobaMaximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 3 vehicles (5th wheel combinations only)

    Maximum combined length for 2 vehicles: 21.5 meters
    (71 feet)
    Maximum combined length for 3 vehicles (5th wheel combinations only): 23 meters (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting:
    Tail, brake and license plate lights are required, as are turn signals and reflectors.

    Brakes: Independent braking system required where gross weight exceeds 910kg (2,007lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Interior and left exterior mirrors are needed when towed loads are wider than the towing vehicle. Riding is allowed in truck campers. Open propane cylinders are not allowed while traveling on highways.

    Additional information:
    Vehicle Standards and Inspections
    1075 Portage Ave.
    Winnipeg MB R3G OS1


    New-
    Brunswick
    Maximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted ? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 23 meters
    (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting:
    Tail, brake, clearance lights and side markers and license plate lights are required. Reflectors are also required. Turn signals are only needed when those of the towing unit are obstructed by the trailer.

    Brakes: Independent braking system required where gross weight exceeds 1.5 tons (1,500kg or 3,308 lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Mirrors must give unobstructed view 60 meters (197 feet) to rear. Overnight camping is only allowed in rest areas where posted. All RV's are required to have flares or reflective signs and a fire extinguisher.

    Additional information:
    Department of Public Safety
    Licensing and Driver Records
    PO Box 6000
    Fredericton NB E3B 5H1




    NewfoundlandMaximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.1 meters (13 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 23 meters
    (75 feet 5 inches)
    Lighting: Tail, brake and license plate lights are required. Turn signals (unless trailer is less than 30 inches in width) and reflectors are also needed. Clearance lights are needed if the trailer is more than 2.05 meters (6 feet 7 inches) in width or the trailer is more than 6 meters in length.

    Brakes: Independent braking system needed where gross weight exceeds 4,500kg (9,923lbs) or two or more axles are used on the trailer.

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Riding is allowed in truck campers, 5th wheel trailers and travel trailers. Overnight camping is not allowed in rest areas unless posted.

    Additional information:
    Department of Government Services & Lands
    Motor Registration Division
    PO Box 8710
    St-Johns NF A1B 4J5



    Northwest
    Territories
    Maximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 21 meters
    (69 feet)

    Lighting:
    Two tail and two brake lights are required. Turn signals also required.

    Brakes:
    Brakes required if gross laden weight of trailer is 1,360kg (2,999 lbs) or over, or if gross laden weight of trailer exceeds 50% of gross laden weight of towing vehicle.

    Safety chain(s) required: N/A

    Other: Two side view mirrors are required on a towing vehicle when the rear view is obstructed by the trailer. Riding in truck campers permitted at speeds below 30 km/h. Overnight camping in rest areas is allowed.

    Additional information:
    Department of Transportation
    Road Licensing & Safety Division
    4510 Franklin Ave.
    Yellowknife NT X1A 2L9


    Nova ScotiaMaximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length: 14.65 meters (48 feet 1 inch)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 23 meters
    (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting:
    If the trailer is constructed in such a way as the brake and turn signals of the towing vehicle cannot be seen, brake and turn signal lights must be equipped on the trailer.

    Brakes: Independent braking system is required where gross weight of load and vehicle exceeds 1,800kg (3,969lbs). Breakaway brakes are required on all trailers with a registered weight of over 1,350kg (2,977lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Two mirrors are needed when view is obstructed and must give a clear view 60 meters (197 feet) to rear. Extended mirrors must be removed when not towing. Ball hitches mounted on the bumper are not permitted. Open propane cylinders are not allowed while traveling on highways. All RV's are required to have flares or reflective signs.

    Additional information:
    Department of Business & Consumer Services
    1505 Barrington St. North, 8th floor
    Halifax NS B3J 3E7


    OntarioMaximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length (including load): 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 23 meters
    (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting:
    Tail, brake and license plate lights and required, as are reflectors. Turn signals are needed if combination exceeds 6 meters (19 feet 7 inches) in length.

    Brakes: Independent braking system required where gross weight equals or exceeds 1,350kg (2,977lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Riding is allowed in truck campers. Overnight camping is allowed in restricted areas only.

    Additional information:
    Ministry of Transportation Information
    301 St-Paul St.
    St. Catharines ON L2R 7R4



    Prince Edward
    Island
    Maximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.5 meters (14 feet 8 inches)

    Maximum trailer length (including load): 16.2 meters (53 feet 2 inches)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 23 meters
    (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting:
    Tail, brake and license plate lights are required. Clearance and side lamp markers, turn signals and reflectors are also needed.

    Brakes: Independent braking system is required where gross weight of load and vehicle exceeds 1,800kg (3,969lbs). Breakaway brakes are required on all trailers with a registered weight of over 1,350kg (2,977lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: A ball hitch mounted on the bumper is permitted. Left and right mirrors are required. Riding in truck campers, 5th wheel trailers and travel trailers is not regulated. Overnight camping is allowed in rest areas unless posted otherwise.

    Additional information:
    Highway Safety Operations
    PO Box 2000
    Charlottetown PE C1A 7N8


    QuébecMaximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    Maximum trailer length (including load): 16.2 meters (53 feet 2 inches)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 23 meters
    (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting:
    Tail, brake and license plate lights and required, as are reflectors. Driver must clearly signal their intention to turn, slow down or stop. Such signals can be given by hand or mechanical device, thus making electric turn signals an option. All trailers 1.8 meters (5 feet 9 inches) or longer require one amber light near each of the front corners of the trailer and one red light near each of the rear corners of the trailer.

    Brakes: Independent braking system is required in each weight-bearing wheel where gross weight exceeds 1,300kg (2,867lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: All trailers without an automatic brake-system must be equipped with chains, cables or other sufficient safety devices.

    Other: Left and right rear view mirrors are required. Riding is allowed in truck campers only if seatbelt used. Overnight camping in rest areas is not allowed. All RV's are required to have flares or reflective signs if wider than 2 meters (6.5 feet).

    Additional information:
    Société de l'Assurance Automobile du Québec
    333 Boul. Jean-Lesage
    Québec QC G1K 8J6


    Saskatchewan
    Maximum trailer width: 2.6 meters (8 feet 5 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.15 meters (13 feet 6 inches)

    M
    aximum trailer length: 12.5 meters (41 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 3 vehicles *

    Maximum combined length for 2 vehicles: 21.5 meters
    (71 feet) Maximum combined length for 3 vehicles (5th wheel combinations only ): 23 meters (75 feet 5 inches)

    Lighting: Tail, brake, turn and license plate lights are required.

    Brakes: Independent braking system required where gross weight exceeds 1,350kg (2,977lbs).

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: The hitch must be connected by a safe clevis or catch. Ball hitches mounted on bumpers are allowed up to 1,400kg (3,087lbs). Riding is allowed in truck campers.

    Additional information:
    Saskatchewan Highways & Transportation
    1855 Victoria Ave., 9th floor
    Regina SK S4P 3V5




    Yukon
    Maximum trailer width: 2.5 meters (8 feet 2 inches)

    Maximum trailer height: 4.2 meters (13 feet 7 inches)

    Maximum trailer length (including load): 16.15 meters (53 feet)

    Vehicle combinations permitted? Yes, up to 2 vehicles

    Maximum combined length: 25 meters
    (82 feet)

    Lighting:
    Tail, brake and license plate lights are required. Turn signals are needed if the towing vehicle's signals are obstructed by the trailer or if the trailer is over 203 centimeters (80 inches) wide. Reflectors are required if trailer is over 203 centimeters (80 inches) wide. One amber reflector on each side of front and one red reflector on each side of rear are then needed.

    Brakes: Independent braking system required if gross weight exceeds 910kg (2,007lbs) or one-half licensed weight of towing vehicle.

    Safety chain(s) required: Yes

    Other: Left and right mirrors are required. Overnight camping is allowed in rest areas unless posted otherwise.

    Additional information:
    Tourism Yukon
    PO Box 2703
    Whitehorse YK Y1A 2C6



    Here is the US by State rules

    StateMax Towing
    Speed (MPH)Max Trailer
    LengthMax Trailer
    WidthMax Trailer
    HeightMax Overall
    LengthWeight Requiring
    Trailer Brake(lbs)Alabama6540'8'13'6"N/S3000Alaska4540'8'6"14'75'5000Arizona5540'8'13'6"6 5'3000Arkansas7053'6"8'6"13'6"65'3000California554 0'8'6"14'65'1500Colorado65N/S8'6"14'6"70'3000Connecticut65N/S8'6"13'6"60'3000Delaware5540'8'6"13'6"65'N/SWash. D.C.5560'8'13'6"85'3000Flordia6540'8'6"13'6"65'300 0Georgia55N/S8'6"13'6"60'3000Hawaii5040'9'14'65'3000Idaho7548' 8'6"14'75'1500Illinois5560'8'13'6"65'3000Indiana55 40'8'6"13'6"65'3000Iowa65N/S8'14'70'3000Kansas55N/S8'6"14'65'N/SKentucky65N/S8'13'6"63'N/SLouisiana7040'8'13'6"70'3000Maine6548'8'6"13'6"65 '3000Maryland6540'8'13'6"55'3000Massachusetts6540' 8'6"13'6"65'N/SMichigan5545'8'6"12'6"65'3000Minnesota6545'8'6"13 '6"60'3000Mississippi5540'8'6"13'6"53'2000Missouri 60N/S8'13'6"55'N/SMontana65N/S8'6"14'65'3000Nebraska6540'8'6"14'6"65'3000Nevada 65N/S8'14'70'3000New Hampshire6548'8'6"13'6"N/SN/SNew Jersey5540'8'6"13'6"50'N/SNew Mexico7540'8'6"14'75'3000New York6548'8'13'6"65'3000N. Carolina5535'8'13'6"60'4000N. Dakota7053'8'6"14'75'N/SOhio5540'8'6"13'6"65'2000Oklahoma7040'8'6"13'6"65 '3000Oregon5545'8'6"14'65'N/SPennsylvania55N/S8'6"13'6"60'3000Rhode Island55N/S8'6"13'6"60'4000S. Carolina5548'8'6"13'6"N/S3000S. Dakota75N/SN/S14'"N/S3000Tennessee70N/S8'6"13'6"N/S3000Texas65N/S8'6"13'6"65'4500Utah6540'8'6"14'65'N/SVermont5545'8'6"13'6"65'3000Virginia6545'8'6"13'6 "65'3000Washington60N/S8'6"14'60'3000W. Virginia5540'8'13'6"75'3000Wisconsin65N/S8'6"13'6"60'3000Wyoming6045'8'6"14'65'N/S*As published in AAA's 71st Edition Digest of Motor Laws.




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    Ignore the bottom of last message and go to this link for US rules

    http://www.campinglife.com/output.cfm?id=1047259

    The rules for over width apply across the board to commerical or private. Once you exceed the max width then a permit is required.

    What is not included in the info provided is that some places have a gray area that falls somewhere between 102" and 120" which means that you are required to have the oversize or over width signs but are not required to obtain permits. It is best to speak with the road/load nazis directly(in the areas you will be towing thru), for your best 1st hand info as things do change. It would really suck to have to waste days waiting to get permits or having to bond out a trailer impounded and ignorance of the law is not a viable excuse.

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    lots of good info. and i love the quote:

    "It is best to speak with the road/load nazis directly"


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