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    Default Finally found a nice Swede Mauser

    1900 Oberndorf...
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    Nice.

    You going to keep it a military arm or make it a project gun for hunting?

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    I already have more hunting guns than we could both carry to the truck...

    I also like stock military rifles (well old Winchesters too) ... particularly ones that are 107 years old...
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    Well lets see if this works this time

    Nope,, the other pics won't take....
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    Default Nice Rifle, but PLEASE...

    Have the headspace checked!!! That bolt is a near twin to the one installed in my 1941 manufactured M38 Husqvarna! The bent bolt handle mystery's answer is that someone swapped bolts on this rifle!

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    Had it checked, it is dead on, and the bolt serial number matches the rest of the rifle. As does everything, both stocks, cleaning rod, butt plate,,,,

    Except the upper part of the rear sight... I sent pics to a guy in Calif who has a Swede Mauser site and he thinks that it was pulled and used as a base rifle club gun... So at one time it had a better upper rear sight and many of those were either ordered with bent bolts or were armory modified a long, long time ago and re-serial ed by the Swedes.

    He said that someone has lighten the stock since that Beech Wood should be darker... Although the pics make it look lighter than it really is
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    That's quite a catch there. I've never even had a Oberndorf M'96 in my hands. And the 1900 date is special.

    I too, have often wondered about the bent bolts and heard many stories about them. There are several of them out there from a broad era and there could be many explanations, doesn't matter. That is a heck of a find from any perspective. Matching numbers is the main consideration. That should be a good shooter, never found one that wasn't. Does it have the brass disk in place with the numbers? It is an amazing specimen in great condition, enjoy.
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    Murphy::
    Lets see if the pics work now....
    They only made Oberndorf M-96s for two years, 1899 and 1900. There were about 40,000 made on that contract. The Germans made them at the Necker river Mauser factory, but they used Swedish steel. The Swedes thought their steel superior to all others and apparently the Germans agreed.
    The stock disc,(if it is original to this rifle) shows an exact 6.50mm bore, a 0 (no mark in the little 1-2-3 area) rating for barrel condition which means new or dang near new and zero hold over for the newer spitzer bullets. The lower stock and upper handguard are serial number stamped to the action.
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    Default swede mauser

    Wow! cannot wait to read your posts for your range time!

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    Ok I think i figured out how to make the pics smaller.. I have this new VISTA (should be Pissed-ah ?) program and none of my old photo shop stuff works...
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    if the rear sight has a brass disc to have micrometer adjustments, and it has the imprint of a sailing vessel, then it definitely was a target rifle. i have a Gustav with the unique rear sight.
    My 96 has tap holes in the receiver for the hi dollar target sights for target shooting also, am afraid to price the sight if I even find one.

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    Beautiful rifle!

    Collector or shooter?

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    Oh, I am going to shoot it.... But just easy range work and the occasional local Mauser Match... I will baby it for showing off...
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    Default swede mauser

    that is the most beautiful condition Swede I have seen in a long time.

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    Now I am looking for one of the brass insert micrometer rear sights...
    or an SM sikte ASJ sights

    Plus I need to buy dies and brass. That means an unsupervised trip to Anchorage...
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    I have an experiment for you;
    In all three of my Swedes, the Remington factory shoots minute of angle.
    Measuring the OACL it is Way too short for the chamber, but, shoots unbelievably well.
    If I recall , 2.96, whereas the rifles measure 3.14
    Heck of a bullet jump!
    So, off to the range I went with Remington corelokt psp 140 grain bullets, once fired brass, and rl19.
    Five rounds loaded with 3.14
    3.10
    3.00
    2.96 of the Rem factory ammo
    clean bore, cool barrel between shots, nice easy day.
    As the OAL shrunk the groups shrunk, to the point that the 2.96 group was sub minute.
    Granted, I have seen regulated experiments whereas the 100 groups might be as large as 2" with the swede, the 200 groups shrink to about 1.5 inch!
    Perfect example of rifle twist of the Swede and the long high B.C. of the .264 140 grains.
    So, for amusement, when you have the chance, please try this .
    Case in point, using the 120 Nosler BT, at 2800 mv, average 1.5 groups at 100 yds, however, at 200 yards, hovered around 1.30
    I am going from memory here, I did keep the targets for reference.

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    one last accomplishment, 140 grain psp core lokt, 2.96 overall cartridge,
    h380, cci primers, rem brass, 2899 average muzzle velocity , no pressure signs, average 5 round group, about 1.2 zzziiipppp and flat

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    Did you remove the butt plate and see if the tag is still there?
    The soldier's that carried the rifles use to put there info in the butt plate?

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    I looked, nothing there. There is a rectangular discolored area..

    The barrel is fairly new and it was rebarreled with a Carl Gustaf barrel at the Carlsborg (now spelled Karlsborg, Army repair station sometime late in the game.

    Somebody replaced and refinshed the main stock which is really white arctic beech. They serial numbered the stock stock, but the number stamping is not as high quality as the handguard.
    I just stained it a little darker so it matches what it should look like.

    The turned-down bolt turns out to be a Husky made replacement bolt. The old serial number on the bolt was polished down and a new serial number was stamped on the bolt knob. The bummer being that some idiot stamped the numbers so they appear to be correct while looking at the rifle from the right side with the bolt closed. I have been told that the bolt knob serial number is supposed to look correct from the left side of the rifle it you open up the bolt and look over the stock.

    I am thinking it was a rifle-club gun. Maybe on a base since the work was done by the Army. That would explain why the only non matching part is the rear sight ladder section.
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