Stopped and talked with a party of three different groups just north of Houston. They took ATVs across the RR Tracks, out across the swamp to the creek leading to the Little Su from Nancy Lake. The trail head is about two miles north of Houston. They had three coolers full of Reds. Said the trail was muddy, but not too bad. They also saw bear tracks in the trails. Might be worth a try they said for Pike as well. The creek was full of weeds and slow moving.