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    North61 - What are your thoughts on the cargo fly? Do you use it much? Is it a hassle to get things in/out? What type of gear do you store in it? I assume carrying meat would be a big no-no due to lack of air circulation. I like the idea of carrying the load lower and freeing up room on the top of the raft for other cargo (like meat). Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by south coast stu View Post
    North61 - What are your thoughts on the cargo fly? Do you use it much? Is it a hassle to get things in/out? What type of gear do you store in it? I assume carrying meat would be a big no-no due to lack of air circulation. I like the idea of carrying the load lower and freeing up room on the top of the raft for other cargo (like meat). Thanks!
    I know you addressed this to North, but I'll throw in my $.02 as well.
    Cargo Fly's are awesome. No, its not for meat storage, but being able to carry everything but your lunch/day gear in the tubes is a game changer for smaller rafts. Not having to have your gear strapped to the boat or flopping around is so much nicer. Obviously, this is less fo a concern in bigger rafts ( I have a Levitator, and it just swallows up any load). And don't worry about durability; in 4 years I've never had an issue with the TZip on a Cargo Fly. Having your gear in the inner dry bags also gives you an extra measure of safety if you happen to get a hole.
    Good luck finding close outs on ANY Alpacka product, short of buying used, I think North should have bought a lottery ticket the day he found the Forager.
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    Yukoner - Didn't pick up on you having an Alpaka with a cargo fly to. Thank you very much for the great info.

    Copy - Don't hold out for a bargain cave deal on an Alpaka, lol.

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    Thanks Yukoner, I am still awaiting delivery so I can't answer with experience. Reading a lot of forums sold me on the idea though!

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    Anyone have any experience with the forager yet? I ordered one up but canít find any reviews or intel from you guys yet. Iíd like to know the realistic weight capacity without anyone else...canít wait to see the raft in person.

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    All depends on how much water you want to draft.
    Honestly, if you had lots of water, a guy could probably get a whole (small) moose out, deboned etc. It would be a pig though, and don't expect shallow water performance.
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    It's a great boat. 1/2 a moose and one paddler is about it though. Would take two rafts to moose hunt.

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    Greetings. Looking for a recommendation. I am looking for an inflatable with the capacity for myself, gear and a moose to be used 95% of the time on class I or II rivers that I would put in at road access. I was looking at the Alpacka Forager and the PR49 but I am now having second thoughts after seeing comments on the forum. An inflatable that has only the capacity to carry 1/2 a moose is of no use to me. Is there a slightly larger inflatable to recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scienz View Post
    Greetings. Looking for a recommendation. I am looking for an inflatable with the capacity for myself, gear and a moose to be used 95% of the time on class I or II rivers that I would put in at road access. I was looking at the Alpacka Forager and the PR49 but I am now having second thoughts after seeing comments on the forum. An inflatable that has only the capacity to carry 1/2 a moose is of no use to me. Is there a slightly larger inflatable to recommend?
    Many thank,
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    Dan,

    This is a great question. You will find lots of opinions on this issue, some informed and some not so much. Of course you have no way of knowing what a given poster has by way of credentials, so you have to come up with some different standard of measurement. In the end, you're the guy who will be on the sticks rowing this boat, so it pays to be cautious.

    I'll give you my .02 on this very succinctly. Avoid the packrafts for this task. In my view they just don't have the lift, the durability, interior space, or the performance characteristics you'll get with a conventional boat. Other opinions will differ on this topic, so be aware of that. My recommendation is the NRS Otter self-bailer 14' round boat. It's affordable, well-built, the company has a well-established reputation in the whitewater market, and the boat will last you many years. This boat is suitable on many river types across Alaska, and will give you plenty of room for a moose, antlers, cape, food, and gear for an expedition float hunt. Put the NRS Longhorn frame on it, and you're good to go. Simple setup, a real workhorse, manageable by one guy both on the river and in a portage situation, and it will get the job done for many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Strahan View Post
    Dan,

    This is a great question. You will find lots of opinions on this issue, some informed and some not so much. Of course you have no way of knowing what a given poster has by way of credentials, so you have to come up with some different standard of measurement. In the end, you're the guy who will be on the sticks rowing this boat, so it pays to be cautious.

    I'll give you my .02 on this very succinctly. Avoid the packrafts for this task. In my view they just don't have the lift, the durability, interior space, or the performance characteristics you'll get with a conventional boat. Other opinions will differ on this topic, so be aware of that. My recommendation is the NRS Otter self-bailer 14' round boat. It's affordable, well-built, the company has a well-established reputation in the whitewater market, and the boat will last you many years. This boat is suitable on many river types across Alaska, and will give you plenty of room for a moose, antlers, cape, food, and gear for an expedition float hunt. Put the NRS Longhorn frame on it, and you're good to go. Simple setup, a real workhorse, manageable by one guy both on the river and in a portage situation, and it will get the job done for many years.

    Regards,

    -Mike
    Thanks a-million for your suggestion Mike. Since I will be solo, will I be able to paddle with a single paddle?
    appreciate your opinion,
    Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by scienz View Post
    Thanks a-million for your suggestion Mike. Since I will be solo, will I be able to paddle with a single paddle?
    appreciate your opinion,
    Dan
    There's no practical way to maneuver that boat with one paddle. Two oars or at least two paddlers are going to be needed.

    You'd have to have a much narrower boat to use one paddle. Check out the gear page here for a little more discussion on round boats and their alternatives.
    http://www.alaskaoutdoorssupersite.c...flatable-boats

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    Quote Originally Posted by scienz View Post
    Thanks a-million for your suggestion Mike. Since I will be solo, will I be able to paddle with a single paddle?
    appreciate your opinion,
    Dan
    No. You need the NRS Longhorn frame, oar stands, and oars for this boat. If you plan to carry a passenger, get an extra crossbar with a seat plate on it and a Fish-On swivel seat.

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    Thanks again guys (Tinkerer and Mike). I should have known that. Getting really excited by the day soaking up as much info as I can on an inflatable for our moose float hunt this year. I will keep you posed on what we go with. Oh, just noticed Fairbanks was a nice 26 degrees. It was -8 when I came to work this morning.
    Dan

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    Wondering how folks are liking (or not) their Foragers.
    It's on my radar for a plane-packable, then backpackable boat for me, 2-3 nights worth of gear and my 85 lbs dog to make way down/across Class II rivers, lakes, etc during fly fishing & camping trips.

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    I still like it. Haven't pushed it hard but it's been a great boat for the type of trips you are talking about. It does handle two big guys and their gear very well. The Cargo Fly is a great feature.

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