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    Hey all,

    When driving to the lower 48, what should I know about transporting my guns? Can I take them if they are in my trunk? Can I fed-ex them to myself? Does a gun store have to transfer them for me? Looking for the cheapest / most legal way to do this... thanks!

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    You can send them all those ways. Carrying long guns through Canada is not a problem. You'll have to register them at the border - registration is good for 60 days - handguns have to be sent to a FFL by a carrier. I just travelled with a couple long guns through Canada, and didn't have any problems. There's a fee with the Canada registration, but I can't remember how much it is.

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    You can send them to yourself by US Mail for the long guns. Handguns have to be either by UPS or fed-ex to yourself, again is legal.

    If you go through Ca. you do a federal firearms 4473 plus pay the fee. You in fact are doing a transfer. Another US imposed BS move.

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    Best way is to look up state laws for where you are headed, then print off the pertinent regs from the BATF website so you can know them and have them in hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schloss View Post
    You can send them all those ways. Carrying long guns through Canada is not a problem. You'll have to register them at the border - registration is good for 60 days - handguns have to be sent to a FFL by a carrier. I just travelled with a couple long guns through Canada, and didn't have any problems. There's a fee with the Canada registration, but I can't remember how much it is.
    schloss:

    I've heard so much different stuff about this. That's why I'm asking.

    Can I just show up at the border with the long guns?

    I don't need to have the paperwork done ahead of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Al View Post
    You can send them to yourself by US Mail for the long guns. Handguns have to be either by UPS or fed-ex to yourself, again is legal.

    If you go through Ca. you do a federal firearms 4473 plus pay the fee. You in fact are doing a transfer. Another US imposed BS move.
    Big Al:
    Can I send a rifle to myself in Missouri, in care of someone else at their address?

    Then later, send it to myself back in Alaska at my address here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    Big Al:
    Can I send a rifle to myself in Missouri, in care of someone else at their address?

    Then later, send it to myself back in Alaska at my address here?

    Thanks,
    Smitty of the North
    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    As long as the person on the other end does not open the package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    Big Al:
    Can I send a rifle to myself in Missouri, in care of someone else at their address?

    Then later, send it to myself back in Alaska at my address here?

    Thanks,
    Smitty of the North
    No, you have to address it to yourself in care of, at the other end. In care of does not give permission for someone else to open or process.

    At the border is where the paper work will start and the fees paid.

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    http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b7

    (B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
    [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]


    (B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]
    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

    (B9) May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? [Back]
    Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.


    (B10) May a person who is relocating out of State move firearms with other household goods? [Back]
    Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her State of residence.
    Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from the Bureau of ATF before they may be moved interstate. The person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported. He or she should also check State and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new State does not violate any State law or local ordinance.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.28 and 478.31]

    http://canadaonline.about.com/gi/dyn.../visitin_e.asp

    As a non-resident, you have two options for meeting the Canadian licensing and registration requirements

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    schloss:

    I've heard so much different stuff about this. That's why I'm asking.

    Can I just show up at the border with the long guns?

    I don't need to have the paperwork done ahead of time?

    Thanks,
    Smitty of the North

    Here's the form that you'll need: http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/online-en_...e/pdfs/909.pdf

    You can fill it out ahead of time or when you get there. If you fill it out ahead of time, make sure that you DO NOT sign it. I just travelled up here from the lower 48 with two long guns, and had no snags at either border. Make sure you look at their definitions of guns, and make sure you're legal - they have minimum barrel lengths, don't permit weapons with high capacity magazines, such as the AR15, etc. If you look over that form, you should get all the answers you need.

    Getting through was really easy for me. The agents weren't very friendly when I passed through, but I guess they don't have to be.

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    schloss:
    Big Al:
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    Thank You for answering.

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