Now you know I am a 30-06 fan from reading my former posts on this and other forums. But you nor I, nor anyone can get the 06 to group as well as some other cartridges and espescially the 308, try as we have. Am I saying the 308 is the best cartridge, HEAVENS NO!!! Now some might debate what I have just said and I look forward to the opporunity since so much of what could be said I do not have the time and space to do so. I have worked on loads with the 06 and have owned some of the most expensive and fine rifles in the 06 cartridge for over 30yrs of reloading and shooting the 06. My best shooter in the 06 group of rifles I own is really not a true 06, it is a Custom Sako TRG 30-06 Ackley Improved with a Lilja 24" barrel and yet it even has not out shot the following cartridges and rifles. I have shot some awesome one whole groups in my life from the Sako custom 7mm 08, Savage 7mmSTW, Sako 308, Custom Mark V 300WBY, these being a few but all of these have out shot my 06's for accuracy and I am hear to tell you the 06 is not the best or most accurate cartridge for shooting or hunting. Yes, it is the closest thing to an all around cartridge in some respects but the problem with the 06 is that, it can do a lot of things but not any one thing better than other special cartridges. If it could, then I for one and most anyone with shooting skills and hunting concerns would NOT have turned to other cartridges and every one would shoot a 30-06 because hunters and shooters want the best for the job. If you are going to use the 06 for everything in north america because it is all you can afford then you are not really being honest. Why? Well if you are going to use it on everything which means you could afford the hunting trips, then you also could afford other special cartridges and should use them because they meet certain hunting and game conditions better than the 06 can. After a little more than 30yrs with loading shooting, hunting with the 06 I have come to a conclusion that will be considered in my opinion by the uninformed and those without years of trial and error experience "apostasy." So be it, then I have fallen from the faithful. And if the faithful are those that are biased due to ignorance and lack of experience then I am glad that I have fallen into apostasy. In fact, I have been set free from "trying out of pride," "trying out of shooting skills" "spending tons of money on rifles and loading components, to hold on to the illusion and the laborious task of proving the impossible, that the 06 is the best. Free at last, Yes!!! Free at last.