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    I won't claim that it was perfectly trimmed, Steve. Was just trying to get it focused - there may have been a few posts that could have been left up.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Brian M again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntintim View Post
    If at all possible we need every one out at these meetings let Feds know they are destroying traditions, and the future of Alaska.
    The tradition you speak of was only made possible by the Feds taking the land from Alaska's indigenous people and re-purposing it for what ever was politically acceptable for a given period. Same thing is happening now. While you may not agree with it, the fact is the Feds are doing this because they have the political backing to do so. Policy can change with every election cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntintim View Post
    If at all possible we need every one out at these meetings let Feds know they are destroying traditions, and the future of Alaska.
    Please enlighten us as to exactly what traditions the federal government is "destroying", and how? Is it, perhaps, the "tradition" of doing whatever the hell you want, without regard for the implications? What, exactly, is threatening the future of Alaska? Is it perhaps exponential population growth, combined with a persistent, myopic, wild-west mentality of doing whatever the hell you want, regardless of the effects?
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    Ask the small mine owners in the 40 mile area how well the govmt is treating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfamily View Post
    Ask the small mine owners in the 40 mile area how well the govmt is treating them.
    Do the miners of the 40-mile area represent the future of Alaska...or the past, and what do they have to do with the subject of Alaska game management?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntintim View Post
    If at all possible we need every one out at these meetings let Feds know they are destroying traditions, and the future of Alaska.
    Destroying traditions.....hilarious. That's like the guy complaining to the families of beheaded journalists that he's mad because ISIS just ran over his daughter's bike. Bigger fish to fry......

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    To the miners that make a living mining govmt interference is a big deal.

    Do you recall the govmt "raids" on the mines in the 40 mile area?

    Mining is a part of the future of Alaska especially as oil is declining.

    And if you can't understand how govmt increasingly taking more power, AKA the alphabet govmt agencies, in any area or industry will not affect wildlife management or management of public lands...well you must not be following current events as it pertains to the subject.

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 17-006
    Contact: Katie Marquette, Press Secretary – (907) 269-7447
    Jonathon Taylor, Deputy Press Secretary – (907) 465-3985
    State Files Lawsuit Challenging Recent Federal Hunting Regulations
    January 13,2017 ANCHORAGE – The State of Alaska filed a lawsuit today challenging the National Park Service’s (“NPS”) and Fish and Wildlife Service’s (“FWS”) regulations attempting to prohibit certain hunting methods on national wildlife refuges and national preserves. Among other consequences, the NPS and FWS rules would impact some of the customary and traditional methods of harvest practiced by Alaska’s subsistence users.
    “As Alaskans, we have a unique relationship with our land – especially in the most rural parts of our state where residents rely on hunting and fishing to put food on the table,” said Governor Bill Walker. “These regulations impact our basic means of survival. Alaskans must be able to provide for their families, and the rules that have been put forward by the federal government do not support that.”
    Alaska Attorney General Jahna Lindemuth echoed the Governor’s sentiments, and pointed out the restrictive nature of the federal regulations.
    “Alaskans depend on wildlife for food. These federal regulations are not about predator control or protecting the State’s wildlife numbers,” said Attorney General Lindemuth. “These regulations are about the federal government trying to control Alaskans’ way of life and how Alaskans conduct their business. This is contrary to state and federal law.”
    State wildlife officials use their professional expertise, research and scientific data to manage wildlife populations across land ownership boundaries, including land owned by the federal government. Considering all information available, the Alaska Board of Game found that the population numbers were at a sufficient level to authorize hunters to practice the hunting methods NPS and FWS are attempting to prohibit.
    When considering their prohibitions, the federal agencies did not dispute state officials’ assessment of the current wildlife populations. The agencies simply did not like how or when the hunters were going to take the wildlife.
    In addition to affecting how and when hunters can hunt, these regulations impair the State’s ability to manage wildlife resources in the future. “There is no question that hunting is allowed on Alaska’s national preserves and wildlife refuges,” said Sam Cotton, Commissioner of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. “To preserve the ability to hunt for future generations, state officials need the flexibility to manage wildlife populations. These regulations remove that flexibility.”
    The complaint filed by the State asserts that the federal regulations unlawfully preempt the State’s authority to manage wildlife resources and adversely affect subsistence and non-subsistence hunting rights protected under federal laws. The complaint seeks to overturn the regulations and ensure that state hunting laws are applied on federal land in Alaska.
    For more information, contact Assistant Attorney General Cheryl Brooking at 269-5100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iofthetaiga View Post
    Please enlighten us as to exactly what traditions the federal government is "destroying", and how? Is it, perhaps, the "tradition" of doing whatever the hell you want, without regard for the implications? What, exactly, is threatening the future of Alaska? Is it perhaps exponential population growth, combined with a persistent, myopic, wild-west mentality of doing whatever the hell you want, regardless of the effects?
    The feds took the land from the Native Indians in the lower 48 100+ years ago, while promising they would be better off. Some put up a fight while others gave in and in the end they all lost everything.

    Remember our history or we will be doomed to repeat it... I'll be going to the meetings when I hear about them

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