And they just took my buddy's cabin that his family has owned since the 50's
Up near the Denali hwy...can't hardly see straight it's so maddening
If at all possible we need every one out at these meetings let Feds know they are destroying traditions, and the future of Alaska.
Anyone have info on the USFW meeting in Soldotna on 2/16 next Tuesday. Time and location
Retirement Plan - Having Fun and Still Learning
Those leases are renewed every 5 years at USFS, or BLM or whomevers discretion. They can essentially kick you out at any time they chose. It's a huge power grab and leaves the leasee without recourse and at a potentially huge financial loss. They don't care, since we are nothing more than trespassers on their lands and administrative headaches that they would rather do without. Can you tell I'm just a little upset about this? They do not care!
God bless John Sturgeon for taking the fight to them.
Kenai Wildlife Refuge Center starting at 5:30 today, 2/16/16. I can't make it there but commented online. Also saw an ad from them for special use permits which includes "the Kenai River within Refuge boundaries." Wait until they start regulating the fishing on the Kenai. Regulations from D.C. for Alaskans.............
Last edited by Sterlingmike; 02-16-2016 at 10:28. Reason: spelling
I would like to know what the percentage is of Refuge managers, not summertime temporary employees, are actual Alaskans. By that I mean, lived here most of their lives, or born here. If I had to guess, I would say the majority of them were born, raised, and educated somewhere other than Alaska. Then they get hired here by other non-Alaskan migrants, and begin attempting to turn our lands into Sierra Club, 'take nothing but photos leave nothing but footprints' wilderness for their own enjoyment. Screw the locals.
Rant over......for now.
Hunt Ethically. Respect the Environment.
I just went grouse hunting on lands managed by the federal government. My freezer is full of deer shot on lands managed by the forest service. Next week I'll be bear hunting on lands managed by the forest service. Pretty much the only time I haven't been able to hunt or fish is when land is privately owned. I'm extremely lucky to have been born in a state consisting of primarily federal land. In my experience down south federal land is easier to access and hunt on than state land. Many states charge access fees. Washington's silly "discover pass" comes to mind. A few years ago my wife and I took road trip down to Arizona to spend a couple weeks chasing small game. State managed lands were generally filled with trashed and very overgrazed. We had some excellent hunting on lands managed by the BLM.
The state land use guidelines up here are pretty awesome, provided you don't get too crazy....you can build and maintain trails, cut firewood, even build permanent structures. My family's had a permanent moose camp on state land for 30 years....the only times we've had troopers out there, they look around, say "hey, nice camp," and scoot. Not as doable on federal land. I've had plenty of unpleasant encounters with LEO's in my life, but the worst have been with NPS....they can be some arrogant sob's. I remember going in to the Kenai Refuge headquarters back when I was eligible to get a subsistence moose permit...the lady at the desk asked me, "why would you want to do that?"....."uh, do what?" I asked...."shoot a moose."....she said. Then I got the runaround and no permit.
"– Gas boats are bad enough, autos are an invention of the devil, and airplanes are worse." ~Allen Hasselborg
No amendment is needed. This is one of the biggest myths promulgated by those who disagree with federal land ownership. Article 4 is exceedingly clear and this false Skousen is absurd and has been rejected by even the most conservative courts for the past 200 years. The Supreme court has ruled on this issue numerous times. I'd post an article or some legal analysis for support, but it would be rejected without consideration. Fact is lost on those who reject any assertion they do not agree with. So here's the basis. 1.) Article 4 of the Constitution. The whole thing. Those who say they follow the Constitution only have to read it. It's clear.
2.) Jonson v M'Intosh, a case from 1823 The Supreme Court decided that it has no authority to sanction any land ownership rights that do not originate from the Federal government.
3.)The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. 1848. Basically the treaty where the Feds acquired CA, TX, AZ
4.)ACT OF CONGRESS (1864) ENABLING THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA TO FORM ACONSTITUTION AND STATE GOVERNMENT.
5.)Light v. United States, 220 U.S. 523 (1911) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/220/523/
6.)United States v. Grimaud, 220 U.S. 506 (1911) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/220/506/
7.)http://openjurist.org/295/us/1 Before Oregon was admitted to statehood, the United States is shown to have acquired title which it has never in terms conveyed away," Justice Harlan Stone wrote in 1935.
No articles, only fact. Read them if you like, dismiss them if you choose. But it's a long established fact that the Feds own and control land and all property claims are subject to it's approval. Any argument that contends otherwise has been dismissed since the day the Constitution was written. Debating that basic fact is as pointless as arguing whether owls exist, or are there shoes, or which number is bigger 5 or 15.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. ~Thomas Jefferson
I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. ~Gerry Spence
The last thing Alaska needs is another bigot. ~member Catch It
This thread has been significantly trimmed. While we do allow political discussion as it directly relates to Alaskan resource management, we ask that the discussion stay focused on the matter at hand and not get off into the weeds. I enjoy reading and discussing political philosophy more than most, but this is not the place.
But I am done, so no worries. Jousting appeals to me less and less as the years go by.