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    Default My $1000 fly rod strikes again !!! (with pictures)

    Just kidding, I fish with a $150 Cabela's (RLS+) combo, and the stupid fish don't even know the difference

    I was working in Albuquerque for a few days, and decided to drive up to the San Juan River in Northern NM. The drive up across the desert is amazingly beautiful.

    I met up with my guide Art Martinez (from ARCOM Guide Service) at the "Texas Hole". The "Texas Hole" is a secret fishing spot on the San Juan, but I'll let you guys in on where it's at.

    Just turn left at the HUGE sign that says "Texas Hole", then park in the "Texas Hole" parking lot, then follow the paved path down to the "Texas Hole" (don't tell anybody else).

    Art was fishing with two other guys, so I fished with Leonard. Both Art and Leonard are young guys (mid 60's I would guess) that know every inch of the San Juan.

    I geared up, and met Leonard on the water. I've been practicing my casting, so I delicately placed a #24 bug setup 25 (or so) yards into the river. Leonard said, "Wow, that's great, but the fish are ten feet in front of us"

    We fished two different spots, and killed them at both. Actually, it's "catch and release" so no fish were killed.

    I even managed to catch a monster. I had to leave early to catch a flight, but I ran into Art and the two doctors in the parking lot. I showed them my magic trick, and both were amazed (even though I didn't go to medical school).

    Anyhow, if you're looking for the best guide on the San Juan, contact Art at http://sanjuanriverguides.com/about

    *New Mexico fun fact: Men on the San Juan work really hard at keeping hardware from getting stuck in their face's, while women in Albuquerque think it's a fashion statement.

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    Nice pics. Been there a few times in the Jan-March time frame and fished with only a few others around. Great scenery and cool drive to get there. Some big bows in that river.
    Your sarcasm is way, waaaayyyyyyyy more sarcastic than mine!

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    From the looks at all the competition, you'd think the reds were running.

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    And that was on a Wednesday. They tell me on the weekends you can cross the river from guide boat to guide boat, and never get wet.
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    Nice! To the forum community I'll offer this: If you find yourself in Northern New Mexico within the next few months, drop me a PM. Fishing is awesome all winter long. The Air Force has a few more stops in mind till I can retire back home in AK, but for the last three years, New Mexico trout have been my quarry. My guide fee is typically in the neighborhood of one cold beer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AF EOD View Post
    Nice! To the forum community I'll offer this: If you find yourself in Northern New Mexico within the next few months, drop me a PM. Fishing is awesome all winter long. The Air Force has a few more stops in mind till I can retire back home in AK, but for the last three years, New Mexico trout have been my quarry. My guide fee is typically in the neighborhood of one cold beer...
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    How long will you be there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AF EOD View Post
    Nice! To the forum community I'll offer this: If you find yourself in Northern New Mexico within the next few months, drop me a PM. Fishing is awesome all winter long. The Air Force has a few more stops in mind till I can retire back home in AK, but for the last three years, New Mexico trout have been my quarry. My guide fee is typically in the neighborhood of one cold beer...
    Wow you shouldn't sell your self so short! Make it two!

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    Two beers it is! I'll be here till mid-December...this weekend it's the Cimarron, Upper Red, Lower Red, and Rio Grande. It's been very rewarding, and the scenery in Carson National Forest reminds me of home. It's pretty cool to be able to snowboard a half day and then catch 20 inch trout before sundown...but I miss AK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AF EOD View Post
    Two beers it is! I'll be here till mid-December...this weekend it's the Cimarron, Upper Red, Lower Red, and Rio Grande. It's been very rewarding, and the scenery in Carson National Forest reminds me of home. It's pretty cool to be able to snowboard a half day and then catch 20 inch trout before sundown...but I miss AK.
    Yeah, truth be told I have always had a small interest in fishing the Red river and chase some browns. I have seen more then a few over 30..but then again when I can go to the Kenai anytime I want really doesn't make much sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post

    I met up with my guide
    Just curious what a guided day trip on that river costs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannerAK View Post
    Just curious what a guided day trip on that river costs...
    2 beers....... Duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannerAK View Post
    Just curious what a guided day trip on that river costs...
    Two hundred for half a day, $275 for the whole day. It's a pretty easy river to fish on your own, but since I only had a few hours I wanted to maximize my time.

    http://sanjuanriverguides.com/fishing-rates
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    Quote Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post
    Two hundred for half a day, $275 for the whole day. It's a pretty easy river to fish on your own, but since I only had a few hours I wanted to maximize my time.

    http://sanjuanriverguides.com/fishing-rates
    It wouldn't take many of those hired guide days to let you afford a much nicer fly rod setup. In my experience, nicer rods/reels/line setups help us make better casts/drifts which means more fish on. It may also help make that cast which finds the pig of the river. Anyway, just some insight from a guy who used high end gear and knows the difference.

    I don't suppose you shoot skeet with a Remington 870 now do you? I mean the clays can't tell the difference.
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    Interesting analogy, I've used it myself many times.

    With shotguns you get to a point of diminishing returns. These days it's about $2500. Meaning a $12,500 shotgun is not 5 times better than a $2500 one (although it will be a lot prettier).

    In fact I won my class at the state championship a few years ago with my $2000 Browning 525 (now they're up to a 725 model). We like to say "it's the Indian, not the arrow".

    The flip side is even if I was shooting George Digweed's gun (multi time world champion) I'd still shoot about the same.

    I've cast expensive rods, and I've cast mine, and honestly I can't tell the difference. I'm not saying there isn't one, I'm just saying I can't tell the difference.

    I spoke to an engineer on a flight one time going up to Alaska, and he said he's compared a bunch of different rods, and once you get to a good one, they're all about the same.

    Maybe when I get more experience or fish more often, I'll move up to a better rod, but for right now, I'll stick with the Cebela's set up.

    Keep in mind, some company that makes rods for a living is making these rods for Cabela's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post
    And that was on a Wednesday. They tell me on the weekends you can cross the river from guide boat to guide boat, and never get wet.
    Like the lower Kenai during he King run!

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