Just got back from a Crown Mountain goat hunt. My first time goat hunting, and a buddy and I drew party permits. I ended up taking this goat. I have to admit, goats are alot like bears, they look bigger through the spotter than they do when you get to them. Hes no record breaker, but i couldn't be more happy. We went 2 for 2, and "earned it" hiking up from the salt for sure. 8 1/2" Billy @ 170 yards.