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    I'll be on my annual romp around the state soon hitting all of my favorite spots and I'm curious whether anyone would care to share any intel on spots to catch either lakers or char. I've been fishing the Denali Hwy for years and always catch lakers up there but I'd like to try new spots for a change. I've also wondered about Arctic char as well. I'll be anywhere from Soldotna to Delta Junction and many places in between. I know most guys don't like to divulge their hard earned info but if any of you would care to share perhaps I can return the favor if you ever need any intel on OR/WA. I've been up there at least 20-30 times or more and never killed a fish so not looking for anyone's meat hole. I don't have a boat with me either this time.

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    if you fly in for char you will do better the large lakes on the K.P. should have some char in them , char are slow fishing just like lakers they are cold water fish an we have had some hot weather , fish & Gams stocked beer can lake in Anchorage with some char / dollies an lost a lot of them do to warm water as they said in FRI. News paper ., if you hit the big lakes on the Denali HY deep water an early AM an late PM wou will get your fish SID

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    "Char" are tough to find (and even harder to identify). There are lots of places to fish for dollies, though.

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    Default Lakers and char

    Oh god. Here we go with the char/Dollie debate


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    Quote Originally Posted by kwackkillncrew View Post
    Oh god. Here we go with the char/Dollie debate


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    The way I've heard it, if you're paying for a guided trip, it's an Arctic char, if you're fishing on the cheap it's a Dolly.

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    Big lake has char. Harding lake. Fielding lake as well? Not sure about fielding. Certain lakes in the swanson and swan river drainage of northern KP have natural populations of char as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunt&FishAK View Post
    Big lake has char. Harding lake. Fielding lake as well? Not sure about fielding. Certain lakes in the swanson and swan river drainage of northern KP have natural populations of char as well.
    Sorry, but Big Lake has a very healthy population of dollie varden. Just because they get caught thru the ice, doesn't make them char.
    That seems to be the reason most call that type of fish "char" - they catch it through the ice.

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    I tend to agree with those from the Arctic Char camp. As a general rule, Dolly Varden are residents of streams, and Arctic Char are residents of Lakes. I am not an Ichthyologist, so I would love to hear the expert opinion if there is one.

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static-sf...ollyvarden.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    Sorry, but Big Lake has a very healthy population of dollie varden. Just because they get caught thru the ice, doesn't make them char.
    That seems to be the reason most call that type of fish "char" - they catch it through the ice.
    They are members of the char family. There are both dolly varden and arctic char in big lake. Long lake on the Glenn also has arctic char.



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    Thanks for the input guys. I've always thought the Arctic char were primarily stillwater fish
    and are primarily found way up north in the state. Sorry for the confusion. Yes, dollies, lakers, bulls and even brookies are all char technically.

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    I think its a char? LOL
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    I read (somewhere) that char are a small fish and seldom grow bigger that 20". Not sure if its true or not.

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    they accualy stock char over 20 inchs in some lakes. but this should make it a little more easy to find some http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...aSearchResults

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I read (somewhere) that char are a small fish and seldom grow bigger that 20". Not sure if its true or not.
    Char in AK grow to be upwards of 20lbs



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    Dennis I recall you told me several years ago about catching them somewhere near the coast (Nome maybe?)
    You might remember me. We fished for grayling together up on the Badger Slough (I think it was called). By the way... You told me about the DCW and I've been every year since. Probably the highlight of my trip every year. Nothing like watching the big grayling sip a Dunn on an Alaskan spring creek. I'll probably be up on the Chena next Thursday evening and then head to the DCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunt&FishAK View Post
    Char in AK grow to be upwards of 20lbs
    So do dollies - how do YOU tell them apart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    So do dollies - how do YOU tell them apart?
    Count the gill rakers and you will know for sure.

    ADF&G published reference -

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/fi...ollyvarden.pdf

    ADFG Species profiles:

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...llyvarden.main

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...rcticchar.main

    ADFG interactive mapping for fish species locations in Alaska:


    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/sf/SARR/A...teractive.home


    Fred DeCicco published a good read here (Fishery bio that studied the dolly v in Northern AK)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgefly View Post
    Dennis I recall you told me several years ago about catching them somewhere near the coast (Nome maybe?)
    You might remember me. We fished for grayling together up on the Badger Slough (I think it was called). By the way... You told me about the DCW and I've been every year since. Probably the highlight of my trip every year. Nothing like watching the big grayling sip a Dunn on an Alaskan spring creek. I'll probably be up on the Chena next Thursday evening and then head to the DCW.
    Big sea run dolly varden is what we talked about - yes Seward P (out of Nome).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediMasterSalmonSlayer View Post
    Count the gill rakers and you will know for sure.

    ADF&G published reference -

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/fi...ollyvarden.pdf

    ADFG Species profiles:

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...llyvarden.main

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...rcticchar.main

    ADFG interactive mapping for fish species locations in Alaska:


    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/sf/SARR/A...teractive.home


    Fred DeCicco published a good read here (Fishery bio that studied the dolly v in Northern AK)

    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...rticles_id=147
    T-Minus 3 days to Dollyville, will be on the Kelly River to target these beasts. I'll report back with photos if we get into them, otherwise it will be a nice long camping trip. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcox View Post
    T-Minus 3 days to Dollyville, will be on the Kelly River to target these beasts. I'll report back with photos if we get into them, otherwise it will be a nice long camping trip. LOL.

    Fish On!
    dont forget to count the gill rakers... lol
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