i was going threw my survival gear,and got to thinking how would i start a fire if it was lost for some reason? so in ideal conditions thought i would try .i decided my best bet would be a bow drill set so started searching for the materials i needed. got the bow made with a boot lace and small piece of spruce, a cool cupped rock for the socket, pine for the drill(not from the forest but thought it was my best bet for this 1st test) and spruce for the fire board. had a great tender bundle and kenneling ready. started working this set up and on the second try had it smoking really strong but no ember developed. tried a few more times but never achieved better results. when i was pretty exhausted from trying i gave up and used my flint and steel and had it going in no time. im not sure why i failed with the bow?(wrong materials,a little moisture,not enough effort,fire board constructed wrong??) any of you guys tried this method with better results? sure would be nice to have confidence in my ability and had i been successful intended to try in poorer/damper conditions. ill keep trying and report back with what worked for me and what didnt when/if im able to master this skill.