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    Default I'm looking for good loads for a .454 I've just received

    somewhere in the 1000-1200 fps range?
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    I backed my loads down.I went to 29gr of 296//110 and 335 gr cast performance bullet and it quit hurting to shoot stay on the level.
    Now left only to be a turd in the forrest and the circle will be complete.Use me as I have used you

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    1000-1200fps 350-360gr is a Ruger Only 45 Colt load. Hodgdon max load of H110 will do it. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com My 45 Colt 355er is 1200ish over 21.5gr H110 out of a 7.5" SBH.


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    The original 260gr at 1800fps or heavy for caliber? My "heavy" load is a 355 wfn at 1300fps out of a 4 inch barrel. Any faster and I can't keep the heavy boolits from jumping crimp which is pretty normal for the 454. I'm probably at about a 50,000 psi load which is really a 5 shot 45 colt load but I load em in 454 brass so they don't end up in my SBH 45 Colt
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    http://454casull.com/loadingdata.pdf

    Note these are jacketed bullets and build more pressure than HC lead. For me anyway numbers for a 300gr jacketed work out real close pressure wise to a 335/340 gr lead bullet and the lead is faster due to less friction
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    Thanks to all.
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    I use 21 grains of 2400 under a 340gr WFN LBT bullet I cast with an LBT mold, comfortable and accurate, getting 1350 from my 6" barreled FA.

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    For low velocity loads, 2400 works well. You can reduce powder charge until you get the velocity you want. DO NOT drop w296/H110 loads below listed charges for the case and bullet you are using. There are a lot of other shotgun/pistol powders that can get you where you want using a lot less powder. Any cast bullet manual will give a bunch of low vel loads using several different powders.

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    Snyd, what are you shooting in your converted Redhawk .454?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.B. View Post
    Snyd, what are you shooting in your converted Redhawk .454?
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    355er at 1300fps in the 4" Redhawk.
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    Be very careful with starting loads of H110/296. Using the 335 gr cast, we had failures to ignite and boolits went pretty far up the barrel. Had to carry a brass rod and hammer. All the powder was packed behind the boolits, barely discolored.
    It is the SR primer and we only had ignition once we got to almost or at max loads. Did not matter what SR mag primer we tried.
    I cut pockets to use a LP mag primer and then we could use all book loads but the best was to cut down .460 brass. We even had ignition with a Fed 150 primer but the 155 is far more accurate.
    Use 2400 for lighter loads or .45 Colt brass.
    With 296 and the 155 primer it still took near max for best accuracy and it was better then we ever had with a SR primer, Some groups were at or under 1" at 50 yards.
    Try cut down .460 brass and the .454 will be all it should be.
    We then tried factory cast loads with massive, full profile crimps but they pulled with two shots and tied up the guns.
    I use more case tension with my loads and just a normal roll crimp to fold brass to the bottom of the crimp groove and none pulled. Do not over crimp, it will start a bulge and break tension.
    You have two things to worry about if a bear is in your face, fail to ignite or pulled boolits.
    You will read all day to crimp hard but crimp will not replace tension. I ran one round through two cylinders full in the SRH and Freedom and they did not move.
    I found Hornady dies did the best.
    I never liked the .454 and do not own one but have done a lot of work with them, it was a learning experience.

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    Thanks bfrshooter, I'll leep that in mind when I load this stuff.
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    In my 5" 454 BFR I shoot 340 g bullets at about 1150 fps in Colt cases. Three loads are all nice and accurate at about the same velocity. Winchester brass and WLP primers, use either 16.5 g of Accurate #9, 17.5 g of Accurate 4100 or 21 g of 4227.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drow View Post
    In my 5" 454 BFR I shoot 340 g bullets at about 1150 fps in Colt cases. Three loads are all nice and accurate at about the same velocity. Winchester brass and WLP primers, use either 16.5 g of Accurate #9, 17.5 g of Accurate 4100 or 21 g of 4227.



    Try 21.5 gr of 296 in the Colt case. Use the WW LP primers.
    The question is always, if you buy a .454, why download it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfrshooter View Post
    The question is always, if you buy a .454, why download it?
    Several reasons: 1) I can load the Colt cases as hot as I want and don't have to worry about safety, as the revolver is rated to 55K PSI.
    2) The BFR has a great reputation and comes with the rail for mounting the red dot, and
    3) BFR doesn't make a 45 Colt, only the 454 or the long cylinder 45/410 shotgun shell version.

    As many have noted, a 45 Colt loaded with a 300 gr WFN bullet at 1000 fps will cleanly kill anything on this continent, so a 340 at 1150 will extend my range and give an extra margin of effectiveness without excessive recoil. I shoot a lot, and 100 rounds of my load at a session is not too much, but the same 340s at 1200-1250 start to wear on me and I begin to lose accuracy toward the end. I don't want to develop any bad habits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drow View Post
    Several reasons: 1) I can load the Colt cases as hot as I want and don't have to worry about safety, as the revolver is rated to 55K PSI.
    2) The BFR has a great reputation and comes with the rail for mounting the red dot, and
    3) BFR doesn't make a 45 Colt, only the 454 or the long cylinder 45/410 shotgun shell version.

    As many have noted, a 45 Colt loaded with a 300 gr WFN bullet at 1000 fps will cleanly kill anything on this continent, so a 340 at 1150 will extend my range and give an extra margin of effectiveness without excessive recoil. I shoot a lot, and 100 rounds of my load at a session is not too much, but the same 340s at 1200-1250 start to wear on me and I begin to lose accuracy toward the end. I don't want to develop any bad habits.
    My .45 loads with the 335 gr LBT and the 320 Lyman are going 1160 fps. The Lyman drops at 347 gr and still works.
    I just found 21.5 gr of 296 the most accurate.
    Full power in the .454 will take more work to find the right boolit/bullet for hunting. It does get too fast.
    Just don't use that lighter load in .454 brass. It is still a thumper in Colt brass.

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