I've used big johns, cannon, scotty and im sure some others. Scotties seem to hold up better as far as user error like snagging the bottom or kelp, they dont break, normally. The issues I been having is counters both the digital and anolog they just quit. Also the decent is slow sometimes and then it gets ok. The ball also creeps back down when up. I sent one in for maintenance and was told it was my boat wiring(it was not). That one that I was told was my wiring infact was a loose wire in the machine. Im sure since I took it apart the warrenty is void. The motor compartment was full of water. I heard guys are drilling holes in the bottom of the housing to drain the "water proof" housing. I once sent my electric to scotty years ago and they claimed I submerged the unit, I didnt but it sits on the boat 24-7 365, since I opened this one I can see why they thought I submerged it. Has anyone found a "real' downrigger? maybe a commercial gurdie? Oh the rigger that was flooded is about 11months old and all corroded inside, Im spraying with WD and using an airhose to dry it out. I'll prolly clean the wiring and restrip and fasten the real bad ones. Someone has make a better downrigger.