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    Default Remington to recall every Model 700 ever made

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...gun/ar-BBgoPPI

    Remington settles class action lawsuit over its trigger issue by recalling and replacing triggers in every Model 700 ever made.

    As a dyed in the wool Winchester fanatic...bwahahahahahahahaha.

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    Interesting for sure, too bad the suggested replacement didn't happen way back in 1948 and saved some lives... Unfortunately we all know that a gun should never be pointed in the wrong direction anyway but people are not perfect and it happens often.
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    Wow! No worries, I thought everyone that bought a 700 stripped it of all it's parts and rebuilt them into sniper rifles!


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    I own several 700 Remingtons in different calibers and have never had a problem with the trigger or safety failing to work properly.

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    A clean, properly adjusted Rem 700 trigger won't cause any problems. A poorly maintained, dirty, mis-adjusted trigger on any rifle will cause problems. I can cause a failure on pretty much any rifle if I want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunbugs View Post
    A clean, properly adjusted Rem 700 trigger won't cause any problems. A poorly maintained, dirty, mis-adjusted trigger on any rifle will cause problems. I can cause a failure on pretty much any rifle if I want to.
    I understand exactly what you are saying and I would never second guess your comments. I had a new Rem 700 tactical rifle that I had not even gotten to the range yet, when I realized that when the bolt was pushed forward at any speed/force, or when it was locked down- would fire. I took it to Andy and had him check it out and put in a Timmney. Before I took it to him I adjusted the trigger as heavy as possible and it would still do it when I cycled the bolt quickly or with any force (like in a reload scenario). I had cleaned the gun and it was new. I am glad I found the problem before loading it. Bad products can slip through any quality control and it only takes a handful to make a bad reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cast Iron View Post
    I own several 700 Remingtons in different calibers and have never had a problem with the trigger or safety failing to work properly.
    Never a problem with my 8mag.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunbugs View Post
    A clean, properly adjusted Rem 700 trigger won't cause any problems. A poorly maintained, dirty, mis-adjusted trigger on any rifle will cause problems. I can cause a failure on pretty much any rifle if I want to.
    I agree with you.

    I've had no trouble with either of my TWO 700s. Of course, I make sure my finger is NOT in the trigger guard when manipulating the safety. I DO NOT intend to send my rifles for recall. I suspect that most folks won't either.

    Especially those who have already replaced their triggers, for one reason or another, and perhaps those who don't feel the safeties on the current model 700s are satisfactory.

    I'm not convinced, that the 700 triggers are any more apt to fail than the ones on other BAs. Certainly, not convinced enough to require they should be Recalled.

    I would rather see a Joint Effort of ALL manufacturers towards educating the public on how to SAFELY handle their firearms, that ANY safety on ANY action can fail, with emphasis on the BA triggers, using the 700, only as an example. BUT, recognizing that there are many kinds of unintentional discharges for many kinds of reasons.

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    Dozens of deaths.

    Hundreds of accidental firings.

    7.85 MILLION rifles.

    Sounds like a pretty safe item to me.

    Imagine if cars were that safe.

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    24 divided by 7,850,000 =

    0.000003057324841

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    Apparently THOUSANDS of men every year have to make emergency trips to the doctor for complications related to

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    I have had an experience once hunting with my brother in law on Kodiak several years ago. We were hunting bear and he decided to hike with one in the chamber and safety on as we aproached an area with heavy sign. After we finished with an unsuccesful outing we headed for camp before dark. Once we arrived at camp he took the safety off to unload the round and before the safety was fully switched off the gun went off! Now this was a clean and fully dialed in and well taken care of gun and we duplicated the scenario with a second experiment with the same result! No explanation for it but could have been a horific ending had I or someone else been in the line of fire. Since that time he replaced the trigger/safety with a timney with no problems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBEE View Post
    I understand exactly what you are saying and I would never second guess your comments. I had a new Rem 700 tactical rifle that I had not even gotten to the range yet, when I realized that when the bolt was pushed forward at any speed/force, or when it was locked down- would fire. I took it to Andy and had him check it out and put in a Timmney. Before I took it to him I adjusted the trigger as heavy as possible and it would still do it when I cycled the bolt quickly or with any force (like in a reload scenario). I had cleaned the gun and it was new. I am glad I found the problem before loading it. Bad products can slip through any quality control and it only takes a handful to make a bad reputation.
    The contact angle was mis-ground on that, it was a bad apple that slipped by lax quality control. As Gunbugs says any of them can be made unsafe, it's not just a Remington issue they just got the most bad press. Personally I like the safety to be on the bolt so it acts directly on the striker like the Winchester 70 but I've seen those screwed up too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunbugs View Post
    A clean, properly adjusted Rem 700 trigger won't cause any problems. A poorly maintained, dirty, mis-adjusted trigger on any rifle will cause problems. I can cause a failure on pretty much any rifle if I want to.
    You've hit the heart of the issue. We're a long ways from Joe Public assuming responsibility........
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Cor15:19 View Post
    You've hit the heart of the issue. We're a long ways from Joe Public assuming responsibility........
    I own 1 Remington and several other brands. Only the Remington had a round discharge with the trigger never being touched. I certainly don't care for my Remington any different than my other guns. It's a flaw, but I know about it and can easily work around it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoose35 View Post
    I own 1 Remington and several other brands. Only the Remington had a round discharge with the trigger never being touched. I certainly don't care for my Remington any different than my other guns. It's a flaw, but I know about it and can easily work around it
    Yes it's a flaw but no more so than with any other brand, I've had many problem guns come over my bench and I assure you it isn't a Remington thing they just got more press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FootedShaft View Post
    I have had an experience once hunting with my brother in law on Kodiak several years ago. We were hunting bear and he decided to hike with one in the chamber and safety on as we aproached an area with heavy sign. After we finished with an unsuccesful outing we headed for camp before dark. Once we arrived at camp he took the safety off to unload the round and before the safety was fully switched off the gun went off! Now this was a clean and fully dialed in and well taken care of gun and we duplicated the scenario with a second experiment with the same result! No explanation for it but could have been a horific ending had I or someone else been in the line of fire. Since that time he replaced the trigger/safety with a timney with no problems...
    My brother had one just like that with his 7mm. Moved the safety and it went off. He was a very safety conscious gun handler. No way he did anything wrong.
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    Always carried a slingshot in my hip pocket until one day it went off by accident a shot me right in the @#%*!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FootedShaft View Post
    Now this was a clean and fully dialed in and well taken care of gun and we duplicated the scenario with a second experiment with the same result!
    I remember you telling me that story, but not about the part when you made it happen again.......
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    Guess I've owned and hunted with at least a dozen 700/600/660/40-X/XP custom Rems.Thus far, in the thousands of rounds fired, not a single AD.

    These rifles date back to 1969.

    Today, I prefer other brands...but not because of the safety/trigger "alleged" issues of Rems.

    Just think if all 1911s had to be recalled because a few morons couldn't figure out Condition 1 carry?

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