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    I'm in Minnesota hunting for white tails and the long hours in the stand got me thinking. Right now I'm using my 338-06 I really like the rifle, but with a 24 barrel its a little tight in the enclosed stand. I have a model 70SS in a 7-08 that would work just fine the way it is, but sending it to JES and getting it rebored to a 338 fed with a 20 or 21" barrel would be a deer killing machine. Also looking at allients websight 2000mr would almost get me to what I'm shooting already in a nice neat package. Help talk me out of it guys.

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    I don't think there is much to talk out of.
    Your reasoning seems sound and I have a prejudice towards anything .338.

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    If the 24" barrel bothers you, why not just cut down the barrel on the 338-06? You'd still have a better expansion ratio compared to typical 30-06 barrel lengths. Then you'd still have the 7-08 for lighter bullet applications. If you rebore the 7-08 to 338 federal, you'd just have two 338 cal rifles. Convenient I guess if you reload and if you use 338 cal for everything, but at the cost of losing versatility.

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    338-06 shouldn't suffer much from losing a cupla inches of barrel.

    Why isn't a 7mm-08 also a "Deer Killing Machine"? I understand the perception that 338 Fed . might be better for Bear, although I may not agree with it.

    But, "DEER" ???

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    There's a lot to love about the .338 Fed. I've been contemplating a .338-06 and recently a NIB .338 Fed showed up down at the store... hard to justify the extra effort and cost needed to make a .338-06 when the .338FED is right there, ready to go.

    For any and all deer hunting the .338Fed should be good to go...and critters a good deal heavier than deer as as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swapdonkey View Post
    I'm in Minnesota hunting for white tails and the long hours in the stand got me thinking. Right now I'm using my 338-06 I really like the rifle, but with a 24 barrel its a little tight in the enclosed stand. I have a model 70SS in a 7-08 that would work just fine the way it is, but sending it to JES and getting it rebored to a 338 fed with a 20 or 21" barrel would be a deer killing machine. Also looking at allients websight 2000mr would almost get me to what I'm shooting already in a nice neat package. Help talk me out of it guys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    338-06 shouldn't suffer much from losing a cupla inches of barrel.

    Why isn't a 7mm-08 also a "Deer Killing Machine"? I understand the perception that 338 Fed . might be better for Bear, although I may not agree with it.

    But, "DEER" ???

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    I agree with Smitty, I'd use the 7mm-08 before any .338 cartridge for deer. A 120 grain NBT or 140 NBT would work well enough, but I'd be tempted to load a 120 TSX as fast as the rifle would push them. I used a 120 TSX on a larger than average deer (40 inch moose) this year and he couldn't shake it off.....

    From a stand I'd prefer the 7mm-08 by a good margin--and for argument sake I own and hunt with a .338 Federal, a 338/06 and a 340 Weatherby so I'm not particularly biased against the .33s...........
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    Ditch the 7-08, get a 6.5x55 or 7x57, and lop a couple inches off the 338-06.
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    If we now need 338 for deer I don't want to even guess on moose or bear guns today. Cut your 338-06 and put good sights on it while your at it.Sell the 7mm08 to pay for the work on the 338-06 and get more ammo for it.
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    7-08 is a great whitetail round. I would keep it. As for the 338-06 I would leave it as well. You have a nice hunting combo. I wouldn't spoil it.
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    If you get it rebored, go all the way and have it rebored to .358 Win. Why stop at 33?
    Still, 7-mm08 is a great round. My son loves his. Gotta love the .308 family as a whole.

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    SD,

    If there were any deer left at my MN deer camp, I'd be down there right now.

    The 338 Fed is a great little round that I carry around AK in a handy little Kimber Montana at 5.25 pounds w/scope. It shoots so well with Federal 210 NPs that I haven't loaded for it.

    John Barsness has some great loads that will achieve the factory velocity.

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    I don't think a .338 Fed is needed for deer, but if you want it by all means get one. I used the 7mm-08 for deer hunting when I lived in MT, and it was a great round. I sold it before we moved to AR, or I would have used it there as well. I really like the 7mm-08 for deer, and would buy another one in a minute if the price was right. That being said, I am getting a .338 Fed for Christmas, as I found one on clearance here and think it would be a great moose rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayak View Post
    If you get it rebored, go all the way and have it rebored to .358 Win. Why stop at 33?
    Still, 7-mm08 is a great round. My son loves his. Gotta love the .308 family as a whole.
    Agree, I build a lot of both but only the 358 Winchesters ever stay here, only downside to 358 Win is today it's a roll your own deal. 338 Fed you can buy ammo for now but I suspect before long it will also be a roll your own round. No bother, easy to make brass for ether from 308 or 7.62 and easy to load for.


    7mm08 is also a great round but I think of it more as an open country mid range antelope/sheep/goat round than a woodland deer type round.
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    Or, leave them two great rifles alone and gicha one of them thudy/thudys for white tails.

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    Maybe, I'm not understanding the OP, ( swapdonkey.)

    So he's got a 338-06, and is using that for deer. Nothing wrong with having a 338 Fed. for a lighter gun in the same caliber.

    Maybe, not needed, but should work as well for deer, too. Especially if you were hunting deer down Kodiak way, where shootin sounds, like a dinner bell to the bears. Or, so I hear tell.

    Besides, lotsa folks back in the Old Country, MN included, have got populations of Black Bears and Wolves, and Catamounts, and Monster Hawgs.

    I spoke too soon I reckon, maybe, I dunno.

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    I know it doesn't take a 338 anything to kill deer. I just have a lot of 210 Gr Barnes and 200 Speer hot cores. Both have worked great out of my 338-06. I was just thinking that a nice compact 338 federal would be a really handy rifle to have. I have three 7mm-08 and thought of turning one to a 338 and have the barrel cut down to 20 to 21".

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    Just do it. You don't need anyone's approval.
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    Well, if you have three 7mm-08's go for it; and make another one of them a 358!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKMtnRunner View Post
    Well, if you have three 7mm-08's go for it; and make another one of them a 358!
    BUT, there is an advantage to having rifles in the same Caliber. (Not same cartridge, that can be a bit problematic, but I mean same "CALIBER".

    For example, My hunting rifles are all 7mm Caliber. I have 7x57s, 280, 7 mags. I can use the same bullets in all of them, or if a particular bullet doesn't work in one rifle, it probably will in another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    BUT, there is an advantage to having rifles in the same Caliber. (Not same cartridge, that can be a bit problematic, but I mean same "CALIBER".

    For example, My hunting rifles are all 7mm Caliber. I have 7x57s, 280, 7 mags. I can use the same bullets in all of them, or if a particular bullet doesn't work in one rifle, it probably will in another.

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    True but say he ends up with a 7mm08, a 338fed, a 358win . . . still has advantages cuz they are all 308 case family and can all be real easy made from great quality cheap 7.62 NAYTO brass. And there are great bullet selections for any of them.
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