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    "HOW I PREP AMMO FOR LONG TERM CACHING and STORAGE".

    I use ammo cans. They are first lined with three trash bags. I
    then mix 5.56X45 and .22LR cartridges in a large bowl
    (Mixing the smaller .22LR helps fill the space between the
    5.56 which reduces the amount of air).

    When well mixed, I fill the ammo CANS over the top, shake
    the can, shake it some more, fill as necessary. Set the can
    on a electric room heater, with a towel over the top. The
    objective is to heat the cartridges and the air inside the
    can at a "Safe " heat level.

    I shake some more to settle the cartridges. At some point I
    trim the trash bag to about 6" above the can, and roll each
    bag to seal out the air. I then close the lid, and quickly
    start wrapping the can in many wraps of shrink wrap, to
    ensure that no air can get to the outside of the can.

    I sometimes add two more trash bags over the shrink wrap,
    and then shrink wrap again. I then spray paint this with two
    or three earth colors to camo. I then look through my rag
    bag to find cotton fabric that is some earth tone, the shell
    of out used up sleeping bags are cotton duck material and my
    preferred final wrap.

    The result is now ready to cache.

    FOLLOW-UP Note: In the future I am going to add heated very dry sand to the package, before closing. The goal being push even more air out.

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    Rice can also be used to help keep out moisture. I used to put a teaspoon or so in my offroad lights to keep them from fogging up.
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    I swear, AOD needs a "Prepping" forum.

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    Charcoal and pvc pipe, use a piece of dry ice to push out the o2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGL4now View Post
    "HOW I PREP AMMO FOR LONG TERM CACHING and STORAGE".

    I use ammo cans. They are first lined with three trash bags. I
    then mix 5.56X45 and .22LR cartridges in a large bowl
    (Mixing the smaller .22LR helps fill the space between the
    5.56 which reduces the amount of air).

    When well mixed, I fill the ammo CANS over the top, shake
    the can, shake it some more, fill as necessary. Set the can
    on a electric room heater, with a towel over the top. The
    objective is to heat the cartridges and the air inside the
    can at a "Safe " heat level.

    I shake some more to settle the cartridges. At some point I
    trim the trash bag to about 6" above the can, and roll each
    bag to seal out the air. I then close the lid, and quickly
    start wrapping the can in many wraps of shrink wrap, to
    ensure that no air can get to the outside of the can.

    I sometimes add two more trash bags over the shrink wrap,
    and then shrink wrap again. I then spray paint this with two
    or three earth colors to camo. I then look through my rag
    bag to find cotton fabric that is some earth tone, the shell
    of out used up sleeping bags are cotton duck material and my
    preferred final wrap.

    The result is now ready to cache.

    FOLLOW-UP Note: In the future I am going to add heated very dry sand to the package, before closing. The goal being push even more air out.

    LOL

    You have good lawyers and 'hair' no doubt in writing all that out for the likes of folks in these parts.
    I prefer to 'cache' mine by accidentally dumping 'em out of my (wet) coat pocket into the campfire, as I once saw a feller do. Now that gets the boys' attention.
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    You know, all my ammo is "cached" in my home. There probably is some wisdom to spreading the eggs to other baskets, even ifjust for security/break-in reasons rather than end of the world reasons. There was a break-in in our neighborhood about 3 weeks ago, and I'm now trying to figure out how to better secure my guns. They're in locked hard sided cases, which isn't much security and no fire protection, but I just can not afford a safe-even a used one.

    What is the group's opinion of "caching" on public, or another person's private, land?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    You know, all my ammo is "cached" in my home. There probably is some wisdom to spreading the eggs to other baskets, even ifjust for security/break-in reasons rather than end of the world reasons. There was a break-in in our neighborhood about 3 weeks ago, and I'm now trying to figure out how to better secure my guns. They're in locked hard sided cases, which isn't much security and no fire protection, but I just can not afford a safe-even a used one.

    What is the group's opinion of "caching" on public, or another person's private, land?
    My two cents lies apparently disguised in my oblique comment referencing lawyers, fire, and accidents.
    (Actually was just wishing this thrashed topic would soon vanish to ........ )

    'Prepper' sites abound ad infinitum.

    Yes, safes are expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    I swear, AOD needs a "Prepping" forum.
    Uh-huh. About as much as it needs a KKK church forum.
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    Interesting method AGL. Haven't done any of that myself, but may someday.
    I don't know why the naysayers have to show up every time and throw in their 2 cents worth, rather than just ignore a thread they obviously detest. Seems ridiculous to me.

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    The OP, has a good idea, but I like to vac-pack smaller batches of ammo and other items that I may want later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGL4now View Post
    In the future I am going to add heated very dry sand to the package, before closing. The goal being push even more air out.
    Airspace is not your enemy, moisture is. Sand, or any other added material, regardless of how dry you perceive it to be, will likely only introduce more moisture or other corrosives. Desiccant is inexpensive and effective. Desiccant combined with an airtight container is as good as you're going to get. (And who the heck wants to dig ammo out of a bucket of sand before it can be used (especially externally lubed ammo such as 22LR?)).
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    WOW......I had planned to tell how I prepare firearms for 10 to 20 years remote caching, but I don't want to upset the members. That said, I should think that those of you with children and a ever so foggy memory of the rumored 2013 ammo shortage might consider......No scratch that thought, your best to store ammo at the retailers. And besides it will be cheaper in 20 years. (snicker-snicker)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGL4now View Post
    WOW......I had planned to tell how I prepare firearms for 10 to 20 years remote caching, but I don't want to upset the members. That said, I should think that those of you with children and a ever so foggy memory of the rumored 2013 ammo shortage might consider......No scratch that thought, your best to store ammo at the retailers. And besides it will be cheaper in 20 years. (snicker-snicker)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    You know, all my ammo is "cached" in my home. There probably is some wisdom to spreading the eggs to other baskets, even ifjust for security/break-in reasons rather than end of the world reasons. There was a break-in in our neighborhood about 3 weeks ago, and I'm now trying to figure out how to better secure my guns. They're in locked hard sided cases, which isn't much security and no fire protection, but I just can not afford a safe-even a used one.

    What is the group's opinion of "caching" on public, or another person's private, land?
    If you put your mind to it you can find some decent hiding places on most houses, particularly if you own and are mildly handy.

    Certainly not perfect but it may slow down thieves or limit their take to lessen the damage.

    Scares me when someone shows me their entire gun collection in the corner of one closet, that's just making it too easy.


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    I like the idea of have a cache or two and this method is a decent one. I would agree that sand is just going to introduce moisture. Vacuum sealing with a packet of Desiccant and them placing in ammo cans as prescribed would be the best.

    Safes are spendy but are well worth the investment. It took me years to finally throw down the coin for one last week. Best investment ever with a dehumidifier. Even a safe won't keep your valuables safe if the right person wants them and has the time. Spread them around if you can
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    So none of you did pvc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassLakeRon View Post
    Charcoal and pvc pipe, use a piece of dry ice to push out the o2.
    Can you explain this a little more?


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    I use PVC for AR-15 uppers and optics and pack clothing around and in between them. For most stuff 120MM ammo cans and 55 Gal. steel drums with snap ring lids works the best for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrassLakeRon View Post
    So none of you did pvc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limon32 View Post
    Can you explain this a little more?


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    Take a 4 inch pipe, seal one end. Use a end you can open on the other. Put charcoal in the end about 3 inches deep. Place ammo in plastic boxes. Stand the pvc pipe open end up. Put a piece of dry ice in the open end. That will force out the o2. Seal the end then silicone it.
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    Sounds great , what's the charcoal for?


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