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    Default ID this salmon

    My wife caught this while trolling for kings out of Homer on Sunday. It's got some chum-like qualities, but it seems to have some other funky stuff going on as well. Maybe a hybrid of some sort? Thoughts??






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    What did it taste like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iofthetaiga View Post
    What did it taste like?
    Still on ice, and likely going to freeze it whole until I know that it's not something a F&G biologist would like to look at. Sent a picture to a F&G manager tonight, and will contact a fisheries bio tomorrow. Kept the guts in a separate bag just in case. Meat looks nice, though. If it's just another fish, it'll be going on the grill in short order.

    The kings taste great, though!

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    I'll put my money on "chum".
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    A fisheries bio friend suggested that it's a super late coho. I'm going to take a look at the gill rakers tomorrow on his suggestion. If it seems like it's a hybrid, I might have my students do a protein and/or DNA analysis later this year to compare it to samples from known species. Would make for a cool class project!

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    I vote coho.

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    Maybe a fishing lagoon silver that got lonely and started hanging out with feeders


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    My guess is an old silver as well. Pretty interesting though! I've caught two odd fish while fishing kings out of Homer.

    Oct 26 2013. I think a small chum.
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    A sockeye caught Oct 13, 2013
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    That's one of things I love about the saltwater. It seems like something unexpected can come up on the line on any given trip!

    The small chum was terrible eating. The sockeye had nice red flesh and was fine!

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    100% Coho, No question about it

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    Coho, skinny, hatchery fish from somewhere. Good bonus!9
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    Those spots on the back are throwing me. I'd say silver without them, but will hold off.

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    Spots on teh back and upper lobe of tail, gray gums. Coho all the way
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    Just looking at the tail, I'd say silver. Chum's tail is a more defined split. At least that is what I've always been told.

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    Yeah. Tail is all wrong for chum, as are the spots. No spots on chums. Eye is also too small for chums, while the caudal peduncle is too thick.

    I'm going with silver. Over here anyway, we see late runs that get that dusky gray in saltwater before they add color. Ring shape on the fin rays of the tail say yes to silver and no to king, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownBear View Post
    Yeah. Tail is all wrong for chum, as are the spots. No spots on chums. Eye is also too small for chums, while the caudal peduncle is too thick.

    I'm going with silver. Over here anyway, we see late runs that get that dusky gray in saltwater before they add color. Ring shape on the fin rays of the tail say yes to silver and no to king, too.
    I agree caudal peduncle is too thick, and the tail fin is too large/flat and not split for a chum. Eye isn't large enough.

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    coooooohoooooo

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    The tail isn't the right shape for a chum, but the color (or lack thereof) is throwing me off. I've never caught a coho with so little silver on its tail.

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    Coho with water mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian M View Post
    The tail isn't the right shape for a chum, but the color (or lack thereof) is throwing me off. I've never caught a coho with so little silver on its tail.
    Sounding like we got into a water marked silver there brian? I stand corrected on my original guess as a chum.. Now put that sucker on the grill and lets see hows it taste

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