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    After years of making up my own brine I bought a 5 gallon can of Teriyaki sauce and used that to soak the salmon in. It worked good and only had a slight Teriyaki taste after it was smoked. Now, all Costco has in the 5 gallon size is Soy sauce, has anyone used that? (I don't care for the sweet type brines).

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    I've used both and they all turn out fine. Even a combination between those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorBob View Post
    After years of making up my own brine I bought a 5 gallon can of Teriyaki sauce and used that to soak the salmon in. It worked good and only had a slight Teriyaki taste after it was smoked. Now, all Costco has in the 5 gallon size is Soy sauce, has anyone used that? (I don't care for the sweet type brines).
    I use a mixture of soy sauce, worstershire, liquid smoke, and whatever else I feel like throwing in. Soak over night and then dry. If you have a smoker you could skip the liquid smoke.

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    I also use both but I also use a cheap bottle of white wine, besides the soy and terri. 1/2 a hot pepper and at least a tablespoon of Olive oil into the jars prior to canning
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewhop2000 View Post
    I also use both but I also use a cheap bottle of white wine, besides the soy and terri. 1/2 a hot pepper and at least a tablespoon of Olive oil into the jars prior to canning
    Throw in a couple cloves of garlic as well.

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    teriyaki sauce is just soy sauce, sugar and ginger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayling Slayer View Post
    This is my goto reciepe for smoking salmon. I routinely add additional ingredients to the brine but the basics stay the same.

    Excellent BRADLEY Smoked Alaskan Salmon, Kummok


    The following brine recipe is included to get you started, but you are encouraged to experiment with your own salt/sugar, maple, honey, peppers, and seasonings to develop your own.

    Excellent BRADLEY Smoked Alaskan Salmon, Kummok
    (A Spin-off from Bob Kitchen’s Incredible Recipe)

    1 gallon cold water
    1 quart teriyaki OR soy sauce
    1 cup pickling salt
    2 lbs. brown sugar
    2 Tbsp. garlic powder
    3 Tbsp. cayenne pepper

    Mix all ingredients in a non-metal container. Make sure that the salt and sugar is completely dissolved.

    Step 1: PREPARE FISH
    Filet salmon with skin on. Carefully check each filet and REMOVE ALL BONES (Very important for excellence!). A small pair of clean needle nose pliers works well in removing any remaining bones that are stuck in the flesh.

    Step 2: UNIFORM STRIPS
    Cut meat into uniform strips, 3/8" to 1/2" wide and 3"-6" long, OR as long as your smoker racks can handle. The key here is to get uniform thickness cuts for uniform brining and smoking. The length is important only as far as your own packaging preferences. The strips will have a tendency to fall or sag through the larger grid racks, therefore it is best to use the Teflon coated jerky racks, a small grid (1/2") teflon coated rack.

    Step 3: BRINING
    After preparing the brine, add salmon. Place a weighted stainless steel, wooden grate, or large plate over the top of the fish to hold it under the brine. Always keep the brine and fish cool. If you do not have enough refrigerator space, use an Igloo type ice chest with about a gallon of ice thrown in, and monitor the temperature to ensure that is stays below 40°F. Soak salmon in brine recipe for 12 hours, stirring the fish a few times during the brining process.

    Step 4: GLAZING
    Place fish in a single layer on Teflon coated jerky racks (coated with a non-stick cooking spray), or drying racks and ensure that the pieces DON’T touch each other. Air dry in the refrigerator until a hard pellicle forms. Fish will have a tough shiny coat and will be slightly tacky to the touch. Turn the fish over 2-3 times during the Glazing process to ensure more complete glazing. It is during the glazing process that you can sprinkle on certain spices (e.g. cayenne pepper) and/or visual enhancers (e.g. parsley flakes). (Winter time tip! Dry 12-36 hours in a cold place such as an unheated garage, but DON’T allow to freeze).

    Step 5: SMOKING
    Smoke using the following Bradley Smoking guideline: (alder, cherry, or apple bisquettes).
    100°-120°F for 1-2 hours, then increase to
    140° for 2-4 hours, then increase to
    175° for 1-2 hours to finish

    Use the longer times given for thicker/higher oil content fish. As a general rule, the higher temp you use or the longer you hot smoke, the more the meat cooks the oils out, HOWEVER, the meat becomes dryer/tougher in the process.

    NOTE: I've "accidentally" left meat (silver salmon) at the 140-150°F range for up to 8 hours and it still turned out great. I personally believe that you'd have to try REAL hard to make a batch of smoked salmon unpalatable by over smoking/cooking. If you get white “boogers” on the meat, you’re cooking too high/too fast.

    (Others that have used this recipe have applied smoke from 1.5-5 hours, depending on personal preferences. Most smokers are using 1.5-2 hours of smoke)

    TIPS:
    "To skin or not to skin?!?!" “I honestly think that this is a matter of personal preference for most of the salmon. I find that it does seem to help hold the meat together when processing, especially when using the small uniform size strips I smoke, but I don't think it's REALLY necessary........EXCEPT with Kings!! In their case, I believe that the skin helps retain the oils that make the meat so moist and permeates the smoke flavor better when packaged.”

    Storage- Can leftovers can be frozen? “Freeze it and it just gets better. I actually prefer the salmon AFTER it's been frozen several months than I do fresh out of the smoker....the smoke flavor just seems to permeate the meat along with the oils and make it more moist than when it's fresh outta the Bradley.”

    Why not smoke the full filet? ”When smoking large fillets, which I hardly ever do except for special gift packages, having the skin off makes for a better presentation and is easier to serve for guests to eat. I don't smoke whole fillets that often because it takes a special "small" size fish ("Jack salmon") and I don't catch those as often, (And if you believe THAT....!!)” (Also refer to Step #2)

    How much salmon will this recipe brine? “I still don't use scales to weigh anything so my best guess is about 8-10 Bradley racks of strips per gallon. It's easy and quick to mix up so I put the fish strips in the Igloo first, and then mix brine until it's all covered. Then I put a weighted grid on top of the meat to keep it all under the brine, mixing it up every so often.”

    Do you smoke at the above temps/times sequentially in that order, or are those 3 choices for different outcomes? “Yes, they are meant to be used sequentially in the order printed. I use a version of these temp/times, adjusting each as I remember to check the gauge/clock E.G., if I see the temp is rising slower than I want, I go longer, if rising too fast - less time. I also vary these temp/times according to the fish.....e.g. silvers are shorter cause they tend to be less oily, where kings , (my personal favorite), go longer and slightly hotter. I don't think I've EVER hit each and every temp time EXACTLY as Bradley gives, but I aim for them with each batch....they're a good guideline. If you tend to be OCD about smoking, they are a pretty reliable objective to use until you get your own rythym....”

    Should you rinse the salmon before air drying? “I don't....but then again, I've never seen the "chunks" mentioned. I really mix up the ingredients to dissolve better before putting in the fish....maybe that's it.”
    Just finished smoking a batch last night. Excellent as always!
    "I'd rather be fishing!"

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    I use Yoshyata's Original Sauce
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