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    I recently received a Wigglefin Swarm attractor and have read some prior comments on this forum on its success. I will be taking a combination guided and diy trip to POW next month and would appreciate any comments and information on using this type attractor. For example does it work on Coho as well as Chinook? What is the preferred rigging method? (in line, downrigger in line, downrigger dummy). Any comments or suggestions appreciated

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    I'll let those that use them provide the details, but while you're waiting, go to this rigging guide at the Wigglefin site.

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    Straight to the downrigger ball for me. They have quite a bit of resistance on the line and would hate to fight it and a fish.


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    Kodiakcombo should be able to tell you a lot about them, he has used them quite a bit.

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    I bought two of them and that pole and set up has yet to catch a fish, junk!!!!
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    Lotta different experiences with the same tackle, some good, some bad.

    Jeff (kodiakcombo) can catch fish when everyone around him blanks out. Gear or experience? I'm betting he has the insights about kings to fine tune the Wigglefins, so they work great for him. The next guy comes along and can't catch fish with them, so he blames it on the gear.

    I'll listen to Jeff talk about how to use them before I listen to someone else who can't catch fish using them.

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    Use what catches fish for you. I didn't quit using the big flashers. But when is saw this swarm flasher it looked like a swarm of herring eating or chasing sand lance. I rigged swarm on one downrigger and kept a flasher on the opposite side and the swarm out fished the flasher. Keep in mind I use flashers and swarm as dummies on 12-15lb downrigger weights. I like chartreuse and green. For inline use I stick with a green flasher. Have not tried the swarm inline, I don't think the swarm would give my baits the action a flasher would. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiakcombo View Post
    ...I don't think the swarm would give my baits the action a flasher would.
    That's what's been holding me up on ordering the Swarm. I put too much time and effort into getting the subtle bait action I know to work.

    Dummies would be good I'm sure. The areas I'm fishing right now are so chock full of bait, you have to create real commotion to catch the eye of the fish. Swarm hanging from the ball isn't going to hurt a thing even when you go ahead and use a flasher on your lines. I often hang an extra flasher off the balls (about 2' back and with the swivel moved to an extra hole drilled about 1/4" off-center for more kick) while also putting a flasher on each of the lines. Don't even know it's there, except in catching more fish on the side with the extra flasher while testing it out. Now I almost never send a ball down without a dummy flasher attached.

    Signing off to order the Swarm right now.

    Thanks!

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    I run the swarm as dummies with 11" flasher in Line as Kodiak does. Got a beautiful king yesterday, and lost a second. Green and chartreuse combo of blades. Green flasher. Green salmon rotator. Thanks Kodiak Combo and Swarm!

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    I have a very brief history with them now, as in two trips.

    First time out, we got three kings on two rods in a little over an hour while friends on two boats in the immediate area blanked all afternoon. Figured I had found the holy grail. Second trip, we didn't catch a thing on anything. Of course, no one else did either. Just one of those days and alternating time with and without the Swarm didn't seem to make a difference.

    I'm glad I have them on the boat now and will experiment with them lots more. There's no such thing as a perfect setup that will work all the time every time. But I sure catch lots more fish for my messing around to fine tune gear and try different things on different days. Kinda like having one more arrow in a quiver with the Swarm on board.

    BTW- We were using the green/chartreuse/silver combo as a dummy followed by this flasher in 0777 GOGY GOLD GREEN-YELLOW on the lines. Sure created a whole lot of "commotion" in the water, and that seemed to help. If you think about it, those are kinda needlefish colors and all three fish were plugged with needlefish. That's our favorite flasher on sunny days in water deeper than 20', but we switch to this metal one in 0785 CHGC GREEN CRYSTAL for water shallower than 20'. That's cuzz the plastics want to plane up to the surface on turns in the shallows, but the metals track straight and true. Overcast days we tend more to plain silver or holographic silver both shallow and deeper.

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    When I lived in SE Alaska, I never put a line down without a flasher. Didn't matter what bait setup I was using. However for the past 8 years they have never left my tackle box. I get the perfect bait roll/action by using my brad's cut plugs. Does exactly what I want out of the box and best of all, I fight only the fish and not that big chunk of plastic on the line ~ as it should be!!!

    I do love the swarm running of the downrigger ball, best of both worlds.
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    Didn't help today, but it was bright and sunny. Same on the other day it didn't help, and the holy grail day was overcast. Might be coincidence, and might not.

    Had one of THOSE days today, finally finding fish and hooking up on cutplug behind a holo silver flasher, no wigglefin. We don't usually lose many fish, but today we hooked up three times and lost every single one of them..... A rematch is in order, sooner rather than later!!!!!

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    Wiggle fins definitely work on Silvers. I use same exact set up as for kings, dummy fashion. Caught em all day long!

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    A couple of times now they've made a whale of a difference slaved off the downrigger balls. Both were in water 20-30' deep on overcast days with chop. Fishing with friends in two other boats, and we flat smoked them. We limited out in an hour (4 kings) before they had a hit. Coincidentally I had never lifted the balls or them out of the water, so the neighbor boats didn't see what was going on.

    One of the boats pulled alongside while we were cleaning up to leave, saw them on deck and asked. I loaned them to him and they got three kings before the third boat got it's first.

    Had trouble "reclaiming" my Wigglefins that night! Now both boats have them on order.

    My reaction now is that they don't make a difference all the time, but when they work, they really work. No way to know from one day to the next until you try them.

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    Got two small kings close to Whittier on Saturday evening. Both on the downriggers that had the swarm as a slave, trolling brad's cut plug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlingitwarrior View Post
    ...on Saturday evening.
    I'm still learning the ins and outs of using them. Did it happen to be low light or overcast because it was evening, and how deep were you fishing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownBear View Post
    I'm still learning the ins and outs of using them. Did it happen to be low light or overcast because it was evening, and how deep were you fishing?
    I have them on a 2 foot leader that hooks on the 12 lb downrigger ball. This time we dropped it down about five feet, then the brads to the downrigger line using snap gear. I only let about five feet of line out before attaching. It was normal light and we were fishing 50 feet on a 100 foot ledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlingitwarrior View Post
    It was normal light and we were fishing 50 feet on a 100 foot ledge.
    Excellent! Thanks.

    I'm rigging much like you are, but I've learned one "stunt" that seems to help over here. I only put back about 10-15' of line behind the downrigger, then a flasher and whatever else behind it. If I get as much as 25' behind the wire the catch rate starts falling off.

    Another interesting thing I'm playing with: Can't say for sure, but it's starting to look like matching flasher color schemes to that I'm using on the Wigglefins also adds to the hookup rate. I'm guessing with the short lines and the matching colors, it kinda all blends into looking like a bigger "school" of baitfish. Dunno for sure, but that's the current line of speculation and experimenting.

    Thanks for the feedback. Looking forward to more!

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    Appreciate all the comments and information. I will be leaving this week for Thorne Bay with my Swarm. Any particular Brads color?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymen View Post
    Appreciate all the comments and information. I will be leaving this week for Thorne Bay with my Swarm. Any particular Brads color?
    I seem to have the best luck with the black jack and blue Hawaiian. I strongly recommend not using the pre rigged ones though. Buy the straig cut plug and I use 5/6 mooching rig, and by pass the hole on the stern of the rig, that way you can pull you sliding hooks up tight to the rig, which I really find effective.
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