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    Default DLP (I hope) today VERY near Petersburg (Video Link)

    Just got this link and thought I'd post it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zct1...ature=youtu.be
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    Don't know for sure but I'd say if two people were wearing camo and a boat was waiting offshore to retrieve than its more of a hunt than a DLP - what property or life could they have been defending? Good video for little cam though.

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    Carrying a gun while wearing camo is NOT an indictment of hunting, I do it often when not hunting, it just so happens that much of my outdoor clothing is camo, it just so happens that when I am outdoors I carry a gun. Please do not contribute to stereotyping outdoor enthusiasts!

    Now as to the video, that short clip has all the appearance of a person shooting a bear all for the purpose of shooting a bear. I saw nothing to indicate a DLP situation whatsoever. Is there factual evidence that this was event was illegal?

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    I can't even twist it into a possible DLP situation. The bear was up and visible, and obviously aware of the guys walking up. There was no aggressive behavior to illicit a defensive shot. The process of shooting was directed, calculated, and executed in a non hurry fashion. In other words, it looks like these two made a beach landing on a bear they spotted, were unsure of where it was until they got to that point in the terrain, and finished what they had set out to do. Good on them if this is the case.

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    The one DUMB'CHIT nearly got his ass-shot by the other guy. Clearly NOT even remotely DLP. They knew the bear was there. The bear never made the slightest movement towards them. Staged crap is what I would call it. Would make a good training video on how to get your Dumb'assed head shot-off.

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    The only possible DLP justification I can see is that there is a house a couple hundred yards from there (the island sits mid channel exiting the Narrows to the North). They have chickens and such and perhaps they were defending the chickens though clearly not immediately so. Not sure what proper justification for defense of property is (what exigency is required). Not long ago a few guys were cited for dropping a moose in the same exact area though.
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    Here's my theory....

    These two guys are bear hunting. Someone (on a boat?) or across a bay sees them, zooms in and takes a video. The camera is long ways from the guys on shore, you can tell by the time it takes to hear the rifle report after the kid pulls the trigger.

    Perhaps the person behind the camera was a sight seer videoing the bear, perhaps a tourist, they see these guys walking on the beach and shoot the bear and think they saved themselves from certain death and post this video on Youtube with the title "Sasby Island black bear DLP(?) near Petersburg, AK 5/30/14" Which is why it says "DLP?" The videographer has no clue the men are legally hunting.

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    Had it really been a FLAT"OUT charge...........they would have been bear poop, before he got untangled from the sling.

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    I too wear camo frequently when doing things in the outdoors, but this sure looks like what has been stated about stalking the bear and not seeing it until it was looking around (not looking aggressive at all). I understand people getting excited after a shot, but that was some pretty crazy lack of gun safety. I think it was a successful hunt and not any DLP (unless that means dumb lucky people for not getting shot).

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    Just two guys bear hunting. No DLP here. Especially when you see the bear and keep walking towards it.

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    Sure looked like Dad just about clocked ole son a good one at 20 sec. Son sure did jump; bet he's found himself in front of that barrel before!

    Unless son is much smoother in a hunting situation than the rest of the vid showed, he was walking with his gun slung on the shoulder with a round already in the chamber. That wouldn't jibe so much with just a walk on the beach. But neither does the sling jibe with them being hunters and spotted one from the boat. If they were stalking a known bear, which it did look like they're doing (stepping softly) why the heck would his rifle be slung at a time when he has no other use for his hands/arms other than to be ready for a known & anticipated enounter? (for the camera might be an answer...)

    Fun to guess - it helps people to think. Won't know much for sure unless someone comes forward with info.

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    Looks like they are lucky they didn't shoot each other. Believe they could join the Alaska bush people show. Gut shot for sure so hope they find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .338WM View Post
    Carrying a gun while wearing camo is NOT an indictment of hunting, I do it often when not hunting, it just so happens that much of my outdoor clothing is camo, it just so happens that when I am outdoors I carry a gun. Please do not contribute to stereotyping outdoor enthusiasts!
    Sorry it came out that way, wasn't trying to insult anyone. I too wear my waterproof sitka and kuiu camo pretty much anytime Im hiking outdoors and usually carry my .44 if I am alone. Not hunting with the 4" barrel! The video description said that a loitering boat retrieved hunters and bear so I suspected they were hunting.

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    All I saw was a pretty terrible first shot.
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    Doesn't look anything like a DLP to me except for a hurried, offhand shot. That seems like total bullcrap. The pace those guys were carrying along with having a cameraman trained on the animal suggests hunting. That bring said, that was some sloppy *****, unnecessarily rushed hunting. Could this have been mislabeled 'DLP' on YouTube by some idiot in their moms basement in New York?


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    Did any of you guys read the comments under the video?? A guy witnessed this, posted the video and left this comment.....
    Go check it out again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zct1...ature=youtu.be

    "Watched this one from my porch across the Wrangell Narrows. I hope it is a learning experience for the kid. I also hope it was a legitimate DLP and not lazy hunters dropping a bear not more than 250yrds from a house. Video shot with a Canon PowerShot SX40HS at 140X, from .36 mile, so it's as good or better than you would expect. No more shots and bear was recovered by a loitering boat."
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    Why has this been labeled as a DLP? It looks like there're hunting bears within the season dates in an open area.

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    Could care less if it's a dlp if you have a tag in your pocket, the season is open, and you can legally (and safely) shoot and hunt in the area. I used to buy a tag every fall during moose season just to save the paperwork in case there was an issue.

    My biggest concern was definitely gun safety. When the older fella pulled up and the kid was in front of him I bout crapped. Looked like at the end the kid had a slide action pistol in his hand as well......which he seemed to flail around.

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    The issue is location. I think DLP was mentioned because only a DLP could justify shooting around homes inside city limits (there are several close homes and scores of homes within 1000 yards. FYI moose hunters have been cited in the same spot recently (a couple years back).
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    If I recall the "D" in DLP means "defense". No "defense" there that I can see. If it was a DLP within city limits then for the average joe public to kill an animal and call it that they would actually have to be defending their life or property. Otherwise, if it was a problem bear it would have been called in and the DLP would have been done by a trooper or city cop.

    Just because there are houses around doesn't mean it's city limits. Lots of folks live in subdivisions outside city limits and are free to safely kill a legal animal....
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