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    Default WOW, NOW, It's HERE, the ULTIMATE.

    A BFR revolver chambered in 30-30.

    It will probably outshoot your Mdl 94 or you 336 Marlin. You can carry them both, and use your ammo interchangeably.

    http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firear...nch-Barrel.asp

    I thought that bottle neck cartridges didn't work well in revolvers.

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    Sweet, I wonder.......they must have machined a shoulder into the cylinder or the jump to the lands would be a crapshoot.

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    Hope they make it in a 2" model
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    That grip is way too small.

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    I like having one round in both my sidearm and long arm. How short a barrel will they put on the BFR in 45-70?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch It View Post
    Sweet, I wonder.......they must have machined a shoulder into the cylinder or the jump to the lands would be a crapshoot.
    I'm not sure whatchewmean.

    I dunno, If the cylinder is way long, (and I don't know if it is) it could have a very long throat. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    That grip is way too small.
    Can probably get Hogue Rubber Grips for a BFR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmn View Post
    I like having one round in both my sidearm and long arm. How short a barrel will they put on the BFR in 45-70?
    Monn, with that long barrel, you don't need no Steenkeen "long arm".

    Besides a short barrel would ru'in the Stream Lined appearance. Bars would take one look and run off, refusing to fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmn View Post
    I like having one round in both my sidearm and long arm. How short a barrel will they put on the BFR in 45-70?
    7.5 inches and I want one but it ain't a thousand dollars worth of want.

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    Well I guess, no-one gets too excited about the Venerable old Thirdy - Thirddy anymore, even in a REVOLVER.

    If I was truly interested in owning a revolver chambered in 30-30, I would check with BFR to find out how they handled the problem inherent with bottle-neck cartridges in a REVOLVER.

    It is my understanding that the shoulder tends to move forward and push the case back firmly against the back plate, and lock up the cylinder. I dunno, maybe the 30-30 cartridge has sufficient length for the sides to stick well enough to hold the case in place.

    Jist Speculatin. Surely, a Grand Ole Cartridge like 30-30 deserves at least that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmerkeithclone View Post
    7.5 inches and I want one but it ain't a thousand dollars worth of want.
    Do you want one for the Uniqueinonosity, or for some practical purpose, like blowing Cats and Coyotees away?

    I remember "Way back when" these 45-70 revolvers came out. I almost went into SHOCK at the thought of it. I figgered there would NEVER be a Revolver more powerful than that, AND, that they would never last because of the impracticality of the idea.

    BUT, NOW, look at the plethora of beeg, and POWERFUL cartridges available in revolvers. Clearly, I have been ignored.

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    AS I recall there were lots of bottlenecks in handguns. 38-40, 44-40,25-20, 32-20 and there was one of the newer centerfires that S&W used to put in a revolver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redale View Post
    AS I recall there were lots of bottlenecks in handguns. 38-40, 44-40,25-20, 32-20 and there was one of the newer centerfires that S&W used to put in a revolver.
    Correct but they can give fits too, especially higher pressure ones with a sharp shoulder. 30-30 is a soft shoulder angle with moderate pressure so Id think it would be okay . . . ballistics are likely about like Blackhawk 30 Carbine tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redale View Post
    AS I recall there were lots of bottlenecks in handguns. 38-40, 44-40,25-20, 32-20 and there was one of the newer centerfires that S&W used to put in a revolver.
    Those are all OLD Black Powder cartridges, with low pressures by today's standards, and with minimal shoulders, or practically none at all, excepting for the 25-20. Was the 25-20 chambered in a revolver? Originally?

    It is my understanding that the 22 Jet, and the 256 Win Magnum were problematic in revolvers. (Because of the Bottle-Neck design.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    Correct but they can give fits too, especially higher pressure ones with a sharp shoulder. 30-30 is a soft shoulder angle with moderate pressure so Id think it would be okay . . . ballistics are likely about like Blackhawk 30 Carbine tho.
    Nothing outstanding ballistics wise, but I thought the idea might be attractive.

    People drop down to handgun revolver cartridges for their rifle so's they can use the Same Ammo as with their revolvers. (A somewhat dubious advantage maybe, but a popular idea.)

    With the 45-70 chambering, it's just the opposite, your rifle cartridge in a revolver. 45-70 seems a bit too much, but 30-30 isn't. ???

    It's may be crazy to choose a 30-30 revolver for the same ammo reason, when in the hands of some, the revolver could be more accurate than most LAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redale View Post
    AS I recall there were lots of bottlenecks in handguns. 38-40, 44-40,25-20, 32-20 and there was one of the newer centerfires that S&W used to put in a revolver.
    I was thinking that the 44-40 and 38-40 were at least chambered in modern firearms, the problems these caused I don't know, so I'll defer to you gentlemen.

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    I doubt the 30-30 will give much trouble in a revolver cylinder- it's chambered in a whole slew of lever actions and single shots and they have the weakest primary extraction of anything made. Pretty much trouble free unless you get crazy with the reloads. The case taper and shallow shoulder will help as well.

    I shot a 30-30 in a Thompson Contender a bit and I don't believe the 30-30 loses all that much in a shorter than normal barrel FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redale View Post
    I was thinking that the 44-40 and 38-40 were at least chambered in modern firearms, the problems these caused I don't know, so I'll defer to you gentlemen.
    I've always liked the 38-40. I even owned one a long time ago, a 92 Winchester rifle, which was an original.

    It's just a CAS gun now, I guess, as is the 44-40. Whodda thunk that those old cartridges would live again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    Those are all OLD Black Powder cartridges, with low pressures by today's standards, and with minimal shoulders, or practically none at all, excepting for the 25-20. Was the 25-20 chambered in a revolver? Originally?

    It is my understanding that the 22 Jet, and the 256 Win Magnum were problematic in revolvers. (Because of the Bottle-Neck design.)

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    Well, the 32-20 is the parent cartridge of the 25-20. I don't know if the 25-20 was ever put in a revolver, but the 32-20 was (obviously), and I don't hink mine gives me any problem. Additionally, the 32-20 has a reputation for inherent accuracy (at least by the standards of yesteryear.)

    Incidentally, I saw some 25-20 ammo factory loads at Cabela's last week: $72 per box of 50. YIKES!

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