I spent all winter loading 223 ammo and recently discovered that I haven't got a gun in the house that shoots 223. So I sent out one of those text messages that goes to several someones all at once and stated that someone best fetch me home a 223 rifle. My son and my daughters husbands like to shoot up my ammo with my guns and it's all good with me, just leave me any 223 to shoot groundhogs with. My Son-In-Law from Des Moines came bringing me a brand new mini 14. One of the new tactical ones. I guess that means he's trading me for the AR15 that he's got. Works for me! I've always like the mini over the AR platform anyway. Especially if it is one that shoots under 2 inches........that's as good as I need to be anyway!