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    Default New Ruger Redhawk 44 hitting the market

    Just got an e-mail that shows a new Redhawk 44 mag. Photo attached.ruger kodiak backpacker.jpg
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    Wow a snubby Redhawk!
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    Isn't that, essentially, the Alaskan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    Isn't that, essentially, the Alaskan?
    No, Alaskan is Super Redhawk with the big frame extention up front, post type grip frame and the more tunable GP100 type guts . . . Redhawk has a conventional frame like a Colt/Smith and a single main spring that is also the trigger spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    No, Alaskan is Super Redhawk with the big frame extention up front, post type grip frame and the more tunable GP100 type guts . . . Redhawk has a conventional frame like a Colt/Smith and a single main spring that is also the trigger spring.
    Well then now I'm REALLY lost LOL.

    So, I THOUGHT the (non-super) Redhawk was basically the Security Six in a 44, and the SP100 was basically the "new" Security Six, while the GP100 was the same as the Super Redhawk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    Well then now I'm REALLY lost LOL.

    So, I THOUGHT the (non-super) Redhawk was basically the Security Six in a 44, and the SP100 was basically the "new" Security Six, while the GP100 was the same as the Super Redhawk.
    SRH 454 7.5 inch, RH 45 Colt 4" with after market grips. SRH Alaskan has the tube chopped off at the barrel shroud.

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    I look at those two photos and see essentially the same gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    I look at those two photos and see essentially the same gun.
    The guts are different...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    I look at those two photos and see essentially the same gun.
    Try handling one of each at your local shop, they are based on the same frame but.

    The Super started as a Redhawk, but it got a very heavy shroud on the frame wrapped around the first inch or so of barrel. And a different grip angle, and different internals.

    FWIW a 4" redhawk and a 2" super redhawk weigh within two ounces of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    I look at those two photos and see essentially the same gun.

    Note the ejector rod on the SRH is housed in the longer frame and barrel to frame joint is ahead of that.
    On the RH the ejector rod is housed in a barrel shroud not the frame and the barrel to frame joint is behind that.

    Now note Travelers exploded views, SRH has a post like grip area that slips into a one piece grip and RH has a steel loop that two grip slabs attach to. And the guts are very different clockworks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    Note the ejector rod on the SRH is housed in the longer frame and barrel to frame joint is ahead of that.
    On the RH the ejector rod is housed in a barrel shroud not the frame and the barrel to frame joint is behind that.

    Now note Travelers exploded views, SRH has a post like grip area that slips into a one piece grip and RH has a steel loop that two grip slabs attach to. And the guts are very different clockworks.
    The most notable difference I noticed, in the drawing, was part 43 and associated pieces on the Redhawk, and yeah, the grips are considerable different. Now I get what you said earlier about the Redhawk having a "Colt/Smith" type frame.

    So, if the Super Redhawk is like the GP100, which of those two designs is like the older Security Six? (The reason I ask, is I used to own a Security Six-wish I still did.)

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    I've always liked the RedHawk but never cared for the Super version. I have never had a problem with a Redhawk and I guess I grew old with one and never needed the new version, thus never gave it a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmerkeithclone View Post
    I've always liked the RedHawk but never cared for the Super version. I have never had a problem with a Redhawk and I guess I grew old with one and never needed the new version, thus never gave it a chance.
    Same here. Gotta say this is the first handgun to come along in years that has me tempted. My carry gun is a 4" Magnaported 629 with Pachmeyer finger-groove type grips. But I've always had to load the Smiths to lower pressures than the RH. If Pachmeyer engineers a similar grip for this one to keep it from shifting in double-action fire, my wallet is going to get lighter. Probably get a visit to Magnaport, too. Don't care about the velocity loss from the short barrel or porting. It's all about performance in DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownBear View Post
    Same here. Gotta say this is the first handgun to come along in years that has me tempted. My carry gun is a 4" Magnaported 629 with Pachmeyer finger-groove type grips. But I've always had to load the Smiths to lower pressures than the RH. If Pachmeyer engineers a similar grip for this one to keep it from shifting in double-action fire, my wallet is going to get lighter. Probably get a visit to Magnaport, too. Don't care about the velocity loss from the short barrel or porting. It's all about performance in DA.

    Same here, like the RH, don't care much for the SRH. have two 4" RH's. Love them. This new one looks real nice, and i might have to look into one... but i still have a Bisley in .45 Colt at the top of my list.

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    I like them both but if you lop off the extra front frame from the SRH and screw on a barrel from a RH (or better yet a Colt) and ya got something great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    I like them both but if you lop off the extra front frame from the SRH and screw on a barrel from a RH (or better yet a Colt) and ya got something great!
    Yup, like Bowens conversion. Man for one of these in a 500L Aren't you doing these for your own self?

    http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/cata...nversions.html



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    Yea 5 shot 500JRH SRH conversions, I have all the tooling and diner guns but never any time to do the work yet. I'll get there sooner or later. Any word on your 50 cal build?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FL2AK-Old Town View Post
    The most notable difference I noticed, in the drawing, was part 43 and associated pieces on the Redhawk, and yeah, the grips are considerable different. Now I get what you said earlier about the Redhawk having a "Colt/Smith" type frame.

    So, if the Super Redhawk is like the GP100, which of those two designs is like the older Security Six? (The reason I ask, is I used to own a Security Six-wish I still did.)
    If you ever shoot a bear with that 32 S&W Long, or whatever it is, you better HOPE he doesn't find out about it.

    Such disrespect would make most of them MAD.

    BUT, time to limber up the Ole 44 Hand Cannons, men. The bears are ready to rumble. Already, I hear of one attacking a lady on the trail.

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    The beauty of the SRH, (if there is any beauty in the SRH) is the weight.

    I fired my B-I-L's 44 Mag. SRH, hawk with the Long Barrel, and it recoiled about like my Single Six 22 LR.

    You could club a bear to death with a SRH like that, if he's just hold still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    If you ever shoot a bear with that 32 S&W Long, or whatever it is, you better HOPE he doesn't find out about it.

    Such disrespect would make most of them MAD.

    BUT, time to limber up the Ole 44 Hand Cannons, men. The bears are ready to rumble. Already, I hear of one attacking a lady on the trail.

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    I'm not sure what brought on that response. I was talking about comparing the older Security Six to the newer GP/SP100, and the two Redhawks. I suspect you are referring to my Dad's old 32-20 when you say "32 S&W Long...", which I haven't mentioned in this discussion. I don't carry that gun for bears, and I wouldn't use that gun on a bear (unless he was on top of me and I had nothing else). I have a 30-30 or 44 lever gun for that, and also usually carry bear spay as well.

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