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    Small brown bear or cinnamon black?

    Seems to have big ears, not much hump and not much dish to the nose?

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    Another angle, thanks for looking!

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    Small cinn..
    Chain him up for a couple more years !!
    Def not grizz imo


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    Small color phase Black Bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo907 View Post
    Small cinn..
    Chain him up for a couple more years !!
    Def not grizz imo


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    Thanks for the input, I'm thinking I need to be back out there tomorrow and double check!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stid2677 View Post
    Small color phase Black Bear.
    Thanks STID, I'm super stoked you guys are thinking the same thing I was! When I looked at it on the little camera I take in the field I just assumed brown because my baits been getting whacked by a few browns. Got home and started looking on the computer and started changing my mind!

    Thanks again!

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    Congrats man!
    Good genes in that area, be selective and farm it!!


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    In the second pic it definitely looks like a small griz. It has characteristics of a small bear: big head in relation to body, prominent ears. BUT. If that is a 55 gallon drum, which will hold 440 pounds of water, and the bear is nearly the size of the drum, is it a small black bear? A small black bear will weigh less than 100 pounds, and will appear to be about a third the size of the drum. I can stuff one whole into my back pack with room for my coat. My vote is definitely griz. If it is a cinnamon blackie, its a BIG blackie, not a little one.

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    Small black. Ear size relation to head size. It just looks like a young animal.

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    Brown for sure. Don't shoot if you're on the refuge.

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    It is extremely difficult to positively id with those pix, but I think it is a young brown..
    How frequently are cinnamon phase blackies seen on the peninsula?
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    Default Brown or cinnamon black?

    It's definitely one I'm going to have to stare at for a while if it comes in while on stand. Most of my cam pics have been much better but this bear came in right after the camera switched back to daytime mode and the light is still bad obviously. I'm going to go sit tonight, maybe I'll get to check it up close!

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    Looks like a 5 footer, not bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaska_pike View Post
    Looks like a 5 footer, not bad at all.
    Of which species? I'm uncertain from the photos and we have a mixed vote so far!


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    I played with the midrange lighting to see if I could get a better look and once brightened up a bit I'm 99% that's a brown bear, and a 3 year old boar at that. For me the give away is the length of the muzzle and the classic, abrupt "dishing" where the muzzle meets the face.

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    Erik - Those were my thoughts exactly...three yr old brownie...It would be nice to see a close up of the foot - the claws would be a definite giveaway.
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    Either way, just a cub. Way too little to shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik in AK View Post
    I played with the midrange lighting to see if I could get a better look and once brightened up a bit I'm 99% that's a brown bear, and a 3 year old boar at that. For me the give away is the length of the muzzle and the classic, abrupt "dishing" where the muzzle meets the face.
    Eric, thanks for takin the time to mess with the picture and give your input, I really appreciate it!

    I kept going back and forth last night!

    Did too much yard work today to go out tonight but I'm hoping to get out there tomorrow night and see what's new on the camera...


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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliW View Post
    Erik - Those were my thoughts exactly...three yr old brownie...It would be nice to see a close up of the foot - the claws would be a definite giveaway.

    This is solid advice,, and not that hard to do using binos on a bait stand. Here are a few photos to compare between a few of the Grizzly and Blackies I have.











    In this pic of a young Grizzly, you can see the hump.



    Even a young cub has a "hump"




    I still think it is a Blackie,, the head just looks like a Black Bear to me and no "hump"

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    Well limon, did he come in last night?

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