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    Recently I did a review of cold bluing products and in that review I included corrosion resistance but used only BC Barricade. I stated that I intend to do a review of a variety of gun-centric rust inhibitors. Im amassing (my wife says hoarding) quite a stock pile of CLP products focusing on the “P” aspects. To that end I want to make sure I have a comprehensive list of products gun owners might use to stave off rust on their firearms so Im coming to you for suggestions of which products I should secure for this evaluation. Ive scrubbed the store shelves of Gander and Cabelas and Bass Pro and Farm and Fleet and Fleet Farm as well as online outlets for rust inhibitors that cant easily be found. Id like to do a side by side evaluation of about 15 or 20 products and want to know what everybody uses to keep your gun rust free. I figure that by the time I buy the most common 15 or so that would cover the lion’s share of what the average guy uses.

    Im focusing on manufactured/commercial brands and wont be evaluating home brews or gunsmith “secret recipes”. So please list em up and tell me that no evaluation would be complete without including brand “X”. I plan to post this request in a few different areas on the forum to attract as many suggestions as possible because some guys are hunters an others are only target shooters or only waterfowl hunt but don’t deer hunt so if you see it multiple times you need only reply in one thread. Thanks for your help.

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    Johnson’s floor paste wax, yea not a gun oil or even an oil or even intended for rust prevention on steel but very commonly used and works great. I wouldn’t take a blued gun to the Alaskan coast without it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    Johnson’s floor paste wax, yea not a gun oil or even an oil or even intended for rust prevention on steel but very commonly used and works great. I wouldn’t take a blued gun to the Alaskan coast without it!
    You just apply it to the metal with a rag? Do you clean it off again when home or just apply another top coat? Sorry for side track rancid

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    Bullfrog...http://www.bull-frog.com/products/

    Without a doubt the best I have experimented with. Used to be a chemical dealer and had lots of experiments using this vs. others and this won by far. It is a bit heavy for actions on finicky arms but nothing I know of will store as well. Even one of their pads in a wet gun case in the closet proved to show no rust after a year.


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    Yep, I'm a fan of JPW as well. It can easily be reapplied in the field with a rag and a t spoon of the stuff stored in a zip loc bag. Works on a gun already wet too. I just leave it on as you can't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realunlucky View Post
    You just apply it to the metal with a rag? Do you clean it off again when home or just apply another top coat? Sorry for side track rancid

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    Spooge it on whatever way you like then wipe off, no need to remove it later unless you are applying some other finish . . . you can’t see it’s there other than by water beading off the gun. The way I do it is with a cotton rag and a little solder fluxing brush I keep right in the can, wipe it on good and brush down into the cracks and let haze up good then wipe off with a paper towel. When packing to hunt in the wet I put the soaked rag in a Ziplock and take it.

    When I treat a gun after a bluing job (where there is no oil or anything yet) I heat the steel as hot as I can hold and oil with gun oil, then let cool and suck that in. After cool I wipe it down well with a paper towel to get surface oils off and apply the wax. Wax does a better job of lubing things like a bolt action rifle bolt or sides of a hammer than oil, especially if it’s cold out.

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    About any paste wax without abrasives. You want wax not polish and wax like most car stuff.
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    Based on posts and PM’s here and on other sites where I made the same request, I begun to generate a list of the rust inhibitors that I will secure for this evaluation. The product list thus far is. In no particular order

    G96 CLP

    Eezox gun care

    M-Pro 7

    Gun Slick Gun Seal Rust preventative

    Breakfree CLP

    Frog Lube

    Ballistol

    Birchwood Casey Barricade

    Rem oil (with Moistureguard)

    Rem oil (regular)

    Shooters Choice Rust Prevent

    Strike Hold

    Viking tactics Rand CLP

    Hornady One Shot Gun Cleaner & Dry Lube

    Clenzoil

    WD-40 (blue and yellow can)

    WD-40 specialist Corrosion inhibitor

    Fluid Fill Rust and corrosion protection

    MILTECH-1

    Hoppe’s Lubricating oil (with weatherguard)

    Hoppe’s MDL (Moisture Displacing Lubricant)

    Hoppe’s Elite gun oil

    3-In-One oil

    Pennzoil synthetic oil

    Im sure the list will grow. Additional suggestions welcomed

    Time to break out the credit card. Based on web searches, the shipping on some of this stuff is nearly as high as the product itself. This may end up costing a small fortune but I will have a lifetime supply of gun care products when Im finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rancid Crabtree View Post
    Based on posts and PM’s here and on other sites where I made the same request, I begun to generate a list of the rust inhibitors that I will secure for this evaluation. The product list thus far is. In no particular order G96 CLP Eezox gun care M-Pro 7 Gun Slick Gun Seal Rust preventative Breakfree CLP Frog Lube Ballistol Birchwood Casey Barricade Rem oil (with Moistureguard) Rem oil (regular) Shooters Choice Rust Prevent Strike Hold Viking tactics Rand CLP Hornady One Shot Gun Cleaner & Dry Lube Clenzoil WD-40 (blue and yellow can) WD-40 specialist Corrosion inhibitor Fluid Fill Rust and corrosion protection MILTECH-1 Hoppe’s Lubricating oil (with weatherguard) Hoppe’s MDL (Moisture Displacing Lubricant) Hoppe’s Elite gun oil 3-In-One oil Pennzoil synthetic oil Im sure the list will grow. Additional suggestions welcomed Time to break out the credit card. Based on web searches, the shipping on some of this stuff is nearly as high as the product itself. This may end up costing a small fortune but I will have a lifetime supply of gun care products when Im finished.
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    After reviewing the cosmoline product line I steered away for a couple reasons.

    1. I doubt many hunters are purchasing it for a dedicated gun rust inhibitor or applying this to their guns because of the residue it leaves and because of the cost. At about $45 a quart (that was the smallest size) and shipping would add even more I have my doubts as to the usage by the average Joe.

    http://www.cosmolinedirect.com/

    Some of these products are more expensive than the others and shipping costs are a killer. Ive secured about 25 products so far with an average cost (product and shipping) of about $12 each so it represents a significant investment and the list is growing but I do want this to be a rather comprehensive list. I will have to cut it off at some point once I have a list of products I think covers the super majority of products sportsmen use. Im sure I will end up missing a product somebody uses and they will let me know about it. LOL

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    Add LPS 1, 2 and 3 and Kroil to your list. Very popular inhibitors on boats in saltwater, and therefore in common use on guns along the coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownBear View Post
    Add LPS 1, 2 and 3 and Kroil to your list. Very popular inhibitors on boats in saltwater, and therefore in common use on guns along the coast.
    Yes, the machine shop I work for uses a lot of LPS.
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    Still waiting on the brown truck, FedX and the mailman to stop buy to deliver all the purchases but I think im about done buying gun care products for this evaluation. I’ll stop at 40 products. Here is the list. I’ll be at a gun show on Friday and unless there is a product there I don’t have on the list. I think I’ll get going on the evaluation.


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    Kind of a mistake for an Alaska site not to include LPS-1, -2, -3 and Kroil in your test when they're so commonly used up here. I'm willing to bet that if you went on a boat hunt or visited coastal lodges, those might well be the ONLY "gun oils" on hand.

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    Thanks for that. I just placed an order for Kroil online (it appears thats the only way to get it since I dont find any retailers that actually carry it.)

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    Probably location-specific. It's on the shelves of about every coastal hardware store and fuel dock up here.

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    No retailers carry it in WI. I can only buy it over the web. I bought some online.

    I picked up two more products at a gun show on Saturday and I have another gun show this weekend to see if I can find more while I wait for the final mail ordered products to reach my doorstep. Then I can begin the process of evaluating all of them. I should be somewhere in the range of about 45 products.

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    I use Marine grade fogging oil from Napa for most exterior stuff, I also use LPS, and for internals especially my AR's I use synthetic ATF. I live and hunt along the coast and salt water is both a blessing and a curse. 2 seasons ago my 870 took a salt bath duck hunting and I've been tempted to solder a zinc anode on it ever since!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownBear View Post
    Kind of a mistake for an Alaska site not to include LPS-1, -2, -3 and Kroil in your test when they're so commonly used up here. I'm willing to bet that if you went on a boat hunt or visited coastal lodges, those might well be the ONLY "gun oils" onhand.
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    When in Rome, do like the Romans.
    Kroil has been a huge disappointment thus far in my review from both a corrosion standpoint and a lubrication standpoint.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADfields View Post
    Johnson’s floor paste wax, yea not agun oil or even an oil or even intended for rust prevention on steel but very commonly used and works great. I wouldn’t take a blued gun to the Alaskan coast without it!


    Minwax floor paste wax is likewise faring very poorly inthis evaluation from both a corrosion and lubrication standpoint.

    Is been raining here for 3 days straight. Upper 30’s tolower 40’s and howling winds. 2 of the 3 sets of metal samples have been out for 3 days. One of those sample boards was also misted with a salted water solution on day one. Past wax and Kroil were some of the first to fail the corrosion evaluation and were rusted over in the first 24 hours. Kroil appears to be ammonia and ATF (just a hunch)

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    Thanks RC! Looking forward to seeing your results and thanks for doing the research. Much appreciated...

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