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    Default What is a good First FLINTLOCK ?

    I own and have owned all sorts of percussion rifles and pistols...But I have never owned a flintlock. Something a for punching paper and the occasional snowshoe would be just fine. Between 36 to 45 caliber, so I can save powder and lead.
    What is a good starter flintlock that will not require all sorts of work to get it up and running????
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    If you're looking for cheap, I would go with a .32. .36 are uncommon, expensive and molds are very, very, very hard to find. I bought a .36 recently and now I regret it due to the inability to find molds retail. My only option is to have someone make me one, and that's not cheap. Check out www.trackofthewolf.com.

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    I'm going to "go the other way" on you- recommending something that will do nicely for your goals, but keep the door open for other uses. All while giving you good quality at a moderate price.

    I'd say go with the Lyman Great Plains Rifle or Trade Rifle in 50 or 54 caliber. I know you're thinking smaller cals, but in fact I shoot both all the time with 30 grains of 3f Goex for outstanding accuracy and performance on snowshoe hare noggins. That translates into almost 250 shots from a can of powder. And if you're buying, 50 or 54 cal balls don't cost much more than the smaller models. If you're recovering your lead and recasting, it's moot.

    If you decide you're hooked on flinters and want to stick a moose, the tool is right there in your hands too, rather than having to go out and buy yet another gun, fun as that is. I don't know that I'd use 50 cal round balls for moose, but have no qualms about the 54.

    I'm pointing you that way, because the few brands an models (mostly Traditions) of smaller calibers in that same price range are not all that well made compared to the Lyman models. You might find a goodun used, but it's going to cost you.

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    You could also buy a bigbore and use sabots. That would give you some flexibility.

    http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/

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    Quote Originally Posted by springer View Post
    You could also buy a bigbore and use sabots. That would give you some flexibility.

    http://mmpsabots.com/store/mmp-standard-sabots/
    Never mind what I said here. No currently manufactured flintlock will be rifled for sabot or bullet use.

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    Used to be you could buy a cheap kit from Lyman or (I think) T/C. I just checked and things are a lot more expensive these days. Check Dixie Gun Works, Cabelas, and Gun Broker. The smaller calibers seem to be more rare than it used to be.

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    Right now I own a .577 caliber Parker Hale Enfield artillery carbine, an 1842 Harpers Ferry smooth bore and a 54 caliber Lyman Great Plains. All in percussion.

    I like traditional looks and lengths.
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    I really like the rifles made by Tennessee Valley Muzzleloading....


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    They're dandies! I didn't go there in my recommendations because the price is higher than factory models, plus the wait is 12-18 months for orders unless you buy something they happen to have in stock.

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    Oh yeah, they are above my current price range...
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    Here's a worthwhile contact for you. He doesn't have a website, but Tip Curtis is very well known and highly regarded in the muzzleloading world for everything from kits to in-the-white guns to finished guns at reasonable prices:

    Tip Curtis Frontier Shop
    Custom Guns
    PO Box 203
    Cross Plains, TN 37049
    Phone: 615.654.4445
    Email: tipcurtis@bellsouth.net
    No Website

    A kit may be well beyond what you want to take on, but an in-the-white gun will potentially bring costs down into your range. In-the-white means fully assembled and functional, but neither wood nor metal finished.

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    Sometimes a bargain can be found on gunbroker. You might like this one: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=402166128
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    Sent ya a PM
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    Hasn't been mentioned yet, but the Pedersoli Frontier is another good starting flinter. The Cabelas Blue Ridge is the same rifle with a different name stamp. You won't pay new prices and stay within your budget, but there are so many floating around after a couple of decades on the market, you often see them used. I picked up my 50 cal for only $300, but that's lower than most you'll see (generally in the $400-$450 range). They're still a very good value in the standard used-price range. Cabelas no longer offers the smaller calibers, but both "models" come in 32, 36, 45, 50 and 54 caliber. Mine has been a flawless performer.

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    I was wondering how good those were...
    Dixie Gun works still carries them in the smaller calibers.
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    I actually have a number of Pedersoli's in various models. All have been first rate, though the new price has gotten a little steep in recent years. I have no qualms in recommending them if you can match your price point.

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    Any comments on the Pedersoli Traditional Flintlock Rifle (Cabelas)?

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    I too am just getting started with flinter. I chose a smooth bore, 20 gauge. Has the flexibility of using shot or round ball. Flinter will make a better rifle shooter of you, teaches you the importance of follow through.
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    abreitzm try Dixie gun works for a pedersoli, much better quality! Same company different standards.

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