The last thread got a little off track. It always happens and turns into some good reading. Here is a update on the rifle. I picked up a 30-06 and most who read the thread know. I went to the range this morning and was breaking in the barrel. I had 5 shots down the tube and after trying to put in the bolt the bolt catch wouldn't go up anymore and stop the bolt from coming out of the action. I also have noticed that if I put in the three rounds magazine and one in the chamber and cycle it fast that it will miss in the rim on the last shell and not eject the round. it leaves it in the chamber. So Monday I get to see how Forbes customer service is. On a good note with the cheapest winchester 180 rounds I could find I was shooting a 1 1/4" groups so it shows some promise with hand loads.