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    Default Trek over the top.

    I've been hearing some advertising on the radio about the ride over the top. Tok to Dawson City. Just curious as to how many have done this ride and is it worth going? The girlfriend has expressed some interest in doing this ride. I checked out the website but there wasn't a whole lot of I formation on there as far as registration fees etc. Any other info would be greatly appreciated

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    They will be at the Oxygen & Octane show this weekend.

    I did the ride in '01. Had a great time, but the weather and snow conditions on the ride can make or break the trip. The year I went there was very little snow in many areas and I burned up a set of Hyfax. Everyone who needed parts split the cost of a plane to fly them up from Whitehorse. Dawson City was a blast, the people up there are the best!

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    My wife and I went in 2011 and it was a lot of fun. It was cold in Tok (-52F) but up in the hills it was only -20F and ride-able. It was really cool having Dawson open up for just us. The trail is nice and much faster than I expected. My wife (who is a 62 year old grandma) was doing 50-60 mph much of the way. Besides frost bite and blown shocks from the cold, I would do it again.

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    I've just purchased a snowmobile and some friends have suggested we should do this trip over the top. None of the others are experienced riders and I will just start riding this season. It seems to me that this ride might be a bit much for a beginner and not a young one. Is this a valid concern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisa View Post
    I've just purchased a snowmobile and some friends have suggested we should do this trip over the top. None of the others are experienced riders and I will just start riding this season. It seems to me that this ride might be a bit much for a beginner and not a young one. Is this a valid concern?

    Yes it is. I haven't done this run in particular but have spent much time around folks who were new to snowmachining but were all fired up to do the big trips more experienced people did. I spent more time digging them out of holes, loaning them gas and appropriate clothing (on the trail), picking up their stuff that dropped off of their machines, and fixing on their sleds at crap temps on the trail when it should have been routine maintenance back in the yard before they left.

    In the end it was a burden, and I just stayed doing trips with the guys who knew their stuff. Everyone has to learn, but if you have an entire group of newbies, there isn't much learning. Ideally only one or two new folks in a group of 4-5.....one preferable so everyone can keep an eye on them. Snowmachinging isn't just knowing how to ride..... it's knowing how to make smart decisions on conditions and terrain, knowing how to maintain and fix your machine, knowing how to survive if poo flies, and always keeping your head about you.

    I have done a fair amount of remote riding in small groups and also solo on multi day trips out west, and I personally find it hard to relax when I'm out in the boonies considering how much can go wrong and what it would take to get you home if that lovely machine poops out. And I appreciated riding with folks who had the same attitude. Stuff breaks and folks make mistakes, but try to get as much time in on the topics above so that you are A: safe and B: not a burden or liability for your riding partners, before planning any major treks. Find some folks who know the ropes and help out and learn. Snowmachining is a great hobby and I miss it down here in SE but it's not a task to go about flippantly.

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    I did the Trek Over the Top in 2006 or 2007 and it was a lot of fun. The ride out was cold and windy and we arrived in Dawson in the dark. Lots of drinking while in town...fun poker run on the middle day...then a nice faster ride back with better temps. Not sure if I need to do it again but I probably would with the right group of guys. The mining era dancing girls at the casinos were certainly easy on the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisa View Post
    I've just purchased a snowmobile and some friends have suggested we should do this trip over the top. None of the others are experienced riders and I will just start riding this season. It seems to me that this ride might be a bit much for a beginner and not a young one. Is this a valid concern?
    Join the Anchorage Snowmobile Club (http://anchoragesnowmobileclub.com) Check out their website and click on the link for "rides and event schedule." The rides are rated by skill level, you want "family." They are mostly in the southcentral region, lead by fanstatic ride leaders, and you will learn a lot. Some are day rides, some overnight. I would do at least a few of these trips before considering the over-the-top trip.

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    Thanks, I think this is really good advice.

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    I ride up to the Yukon and surrounding areas (+75 miles one way), to cut wood in the winter. Always go alone since no-one to go with. Catch It had excellent advice. Every fall I do a front-to-back, top-to-bottom on my machine and replace anything that looks like it should be replaced. That is the best prevention for on the trail problems. That and having a small but comprehensive toolkit. Mostly filter your gas and always add some isopropyl alcohol to prevent carbs icing up and you'll have a good time. And dressing for the cold. I use Northern Outfitters gear. Expensive, but it is the best that can be had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisa View Post
    Thanks, I think this is really good advice.
    You do not need to be a professional mechanic to have breakdown free fun. A owners manual will go a very long ways towards you learning about what the various things on your machine do, and why. It can be intimidating to look under the hood on a newer machine, but if you look at say a 2003 Polaris RMK, there really isn't much there: motor, carbs, exhaust and the lines that route electricity and fuel. Once you know what things do, then you can pretty much take care of what you need to take care of.

    I have only had one single instance where anything serious occurred on the trail; a very good friend of mine used a container of old gas that had water in it. Well, nothing to do but remove the two carbs, clean them and put them back on. We had to do this three times 'till we got back to his village as there was too much water for the isopropyl I gave him to absorb. It happens. It's a drag at -5* but hey, beats walking 35 miles back to Kwethluk.
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    I know this is an older thread, but I've been doing the Trek for the last three years now. It is a lot of fun and I feel as though with right preparations a new rider could safely make the trip. Be sure to go out and do some test runs in cold weather to learn any leaks in your clothing and where you need to duct tape your face/neck to keep from getting frost bite, as well as how your machine handles the cold. It can be cold at times, but the trails are groomed and there are a lot of people out there looking out for each other. It's much different than heading out 200 miles alone or with a partner. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
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    i remember going in 96, when we pulled into Chicken, it was -54!!!! you know its ccccold when 100 proof permafrost slushes up!
    still a great time, would like to go again in warmer temps. we stopped for lunch Monday on the way home at Eureka, unloaded and rode back to Monument, had to, just to get out trip odometers to 800 miles for the journey! dang that was fun.

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    Me and my buddy just got our conformation. We're riding black and white skidoo summits.


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    Just under two weeks away. We're going Wednesday and stayin in tok for the night. Shooting pool and beers is the plan. Any one else sign up?


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    We ended up opting for a warmer vacation. Off to Mexico tomorrow. Have fun be safe and let us all know how the trip was. I will do this trip one of these years soon
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