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    I've been looking for the definition of long lining as it pertains to shrimp pots, but can't seem to find it. Can someone help me out?

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    multiple pots stretched out on a single line. Just get rid of one buoy when fishing less than 5 pots per line. Call or stop by if you'd like to see more.
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    Thanks Steve, So as a non-resident I'm ok with up to 5 pots on a line providing there is only a buoy on one end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbarnes View Post
    Thanks Steve, So as a non-resident I'm ok with up to 5 pots on a line providing there is only a buoy on one end?
    I'd check w/F&G because with 5 or more pots per line you may have to have a buoy at each end at least thats the way the com regs are written. I'd say 95% of my customers are fishing a 2 and a 3 pot line, not many guys fishing 5.

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    My understanding is that the two buoy regulation applies to commercial shrimpers, not recreational ones. That said, I could be very wrong and it would be wise to read the actual regulation before beginning. For what it's worth, we've always ran a string of 5 on one line while sport shrimping in the past.

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    I also think 5 pots on one string might be quite a load on any puller but the electadyne, I know my Safe-T-Puller grunts on my 3 pot string with the larger round pots.
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    I am just speculating here, so definitely best to verify with ADF&G, but I have a feeling just removing one buoy from the end of the string does not suddenly make it not long-lining. I think the long-lining definition applies to strining more than one pot on a single line, thus non-residents who are not allowed to use long-lining would be required to limit themselves to one pot per line. Again, I do not know this for sure, just my initial feeling on it. I would like to hear the final verdict if someone does clarify it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchskier View Post
    II think the long-lining definition applies to strining more than one pot on a single line, thus non-residents who are not allowed to use long-lining would be required to limit themselves to one pot per line. Again, I do not know this for sure, just my initial feeling on it. I would like to hear the final verdict if someone does clarify it.
    Is there such a restriction for non-residents? That's new to me - I didn't realize there was such a designation for shrimping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian M View Post
    Is there such a restriction for non-residents? That's new to me - I didn't realize there was such a designation for shrimping.
    It may just be limited to the Southeast. I was remembering it from when I was looking through that after reading another thread a week or so ago. According to those regs, residents are allowed up to 10 pots each (limit of 20/vessle) and the pots can be longlined but non-residents are limited to 5 pots each (10 total per vessle) and they cannot be longlined. I can't find any similar regulation in Southcentral though, so probably unique to SE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR2 View Post
    I also think 5 pots on one string might be quite a load on any puller but the electadyne, I know my Safe-T-Puller grunts on my 3 pot string with the larger round pots.
    I did a 5 pot string with my capstan the last trip before installing my E. Dyne. Didn't seem to bother it at all but I only had 3 lbs extra weight in each pot...using 6 lbs. now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchskier View Post
    I am just speculating here, so definitely best to verify with ADF&G, but I have a feeling just removing one buoy from the end of the string does not suddenly make it not long-lining. I think the long-lining definition applies to strining more than one pot on a single line, thus non-residents who are not allowed to use long-lining would be required to limit themselves to one pot per line. Again, I do not know this for sure, just my initial feeling on it. I would like to hear the final verdict if someone does clarify it.

    That's why I'd like to find the definition for long-lining, the way I understand it is one pot per line for nonresidents. But I'll call and find out.

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    Talked to ADFG one pot per line for nonresidents in SE. Gonna have to get a puller.

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    Thanks for the clarification kbarnes.

    From pg. 40 SE sportfish shellfish regs. http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...s.se_sportfish Shellfish .pdf near the bottom. The long-lining phrase is at the very bottom. I couldn't locate another definition on the adfg website.

    Shellfish Sport Bag, Possession Limit, and number of pots and
    rings allowed for Alaska Nonresidents Only
    King crab: Closed to nonresidents .
    Tanner and Dungeness crab (in combination): 3 males, 5 inches minimum size
    for Tanner, 6 inches minimum size for Dungeness .
    Shrimp: 3 pounds or quarts - no size restrictions .
    Closed Areas:
    Ketchikan: East of a line from Indian Point to the
    northeastern most tip of Betton Island to Survey Point .
    Prince of Wales: Twelve Mile Arm (see page 28)
    Sitka Sound Special Use Area (see page 24)
    Geoducks: closed .
    Razor clams: 10 razor clams, except Sitka Sound where razor clams may not be
    retained .
    Scallops: 5 rock scallops (Hinnites sp .) and 10 weathervane scallops (Pecten
    sp .) . There are no limits for all other scallops .
    Abalone: Closed to nonresidents .
    Other shellfish species not listed above: No bag, possession, or size restrictions .
    Number of pots and rings allowed for Nonresidents
    Dungeness, King, & Tanner Crab:
    While taking Dungeness crab, 4 crab pots or 10 ring nets per person may be
    used with a maximum of 10 crab pots or 20 ring nets per vessel .
    While taking Tanner crab, no more than 4 crab pots or 10 ring nets per vessel
    may be used .
    Shrimp: In addition to crab pots, 5 shrimp pots per person with a maximum of 10
    pots per vessel may be used . Shrimp pots may not be longlined

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