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    Default anything and everything regarding overescapment of salmon issues

    I feel it would be nice to see threads stay somewhat true to their intentions enough said on that....it really amazes me that there are those out there that think over escapement is a myth....to those people I say..there is only so much food in a lake how can it support an unlimited amount of smolt for a year?not only is there a large die offers....in their competition for food the ones that do make it often are stunted...hence return of smaller fish

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    Two papers on overescapement.............................http://www.fish.bc.ca/files/Overesca...0_Complete.pdf....................................... http://www.wildsalmoncenter.org/pdf/...nklin_2005.pdf

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    Default The "myth"

    Thanks for posting the excellent links - even if the commercial guys and their supporters hate you and will always disagree.

    Even without studies, I feel two factors about "over escapement" must be obvious: 1) Nature wastes nothing- the fish die in the river serve many purposes in the ecosystem - they are not wasted!, and 2) Nature evolved around into the boom and bust cycles - we can fool with it but we can't alter the cycle without negative effects on the fisheries. Mother nature always knows best.

    And even with the "management" we still rather wide swings in returns - we have only mananged to even them out a bit as obvious from the F&G records of yearly runs.


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    Two papers on overescapement.............................http://www.fish.bc.ca/files/Overesca...0_Complete.pdf....................................... http://www.wildsalmoncenter.org/pdf/...nklin_2005.pdf
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    . . two factors about "over escapement" must be obvious: 1) Nature wastes nothing- the fish die in the river serve many purposes in the ecosystem - they are not wasted!, and 2) Nature evolved around into the boom and bust cycles - we can fool with it but we can't alter the cycle without negative effects on the fisheries. Mother nature always knows best. . .

    Drawn to its logical conclusion, by this rationale we would never harvest a fish or a tree or a deer or or or or . . . because "Mother Nature," whomever he/she/it might be, knows best and wastes nothing—and who are we to presume to alter "Mother Nature's" cycle?


    No, this is an apologetic for rank primitivism, for stone-age hunting and gathering.


    As for "Mother Nature," it is either totally blind and mindless or the mind that totally informs and sustains the cosmos.



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