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    Default Kenai EO - No bait Aug 1-15

    Figured I'd throw out an FYI, apparently creel survey says sport guys are killing too many in-river kings to allow bait on the lower kenai the first two weeks of august. What I find most interesting is I haven't been surveyed in 3 years and i'm on the lower river a lot.

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    Sport guys are killing too many kings? What about the netters who are taking god knows how many each day

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    Thumbs up ADF&G makes a good decision . . .

    Good call, here's the press release . .


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    July 30, 2013




    BAIT AND MULTIPLE HOOKS PROHIBITED IN LOWER KENAI RIVER SPORT FISHERY
    AUGUST 1 - 15 To CONSERVE KING SALMON

    Kenai River anglers are advised that, in an effort to continue protection of late-run king salmon, the department is prohibiting the use of bait and multiple hooks in the Kenai River from its mouth upstream to the Sterling Highway bridge in Soldotna, effective 12:01 a.m., Thursday, August 1, through 11:59 p.m., Thursday, August 15, 2013. Anglers may use only one unbaited, single-hook, artificial lure in these waters.


    “Single hook” means a fishhook with only one point (with or without a barb).


    Upstream of the Sterling Highway bridge in Soldotna to the outlet of Skilak Lake, anglers may use bait and multiple hooks. After August 15, general regulations as described on Page 48 of the 2013 Southcentral Regulations Summary booklet apply to the Kenai River below the Soldotna Bridge.


    Anglers are reminded that king salmon fishing is closed starting August 1, including catch-and-release fishing. Incidentally hooked king salmon may not be retained or possessed; king salmon caught while fishing for other species may not be removed from the water and must be released immediately. Anglers should exercise good sportsmanship by avoiding fishing for coho salmon in areas of the river where king salmon are concentrated and to cut leaders or lines to avoid stressing incidentally hooked king salmon.


    Through July 30, indices used to assess abundance of late-run king salmon in the Kenai River indicate the 2013 run is the lowest on record. The sustainable escapement goal (SEG) for Kenai River late-run king salmon is 15,000 to 30,000 king salmon. As of July 29, the DIDSON sonar cumulative estimate of king salmon passage into the Kenai River was 11,746 fish. The projected sport harvest and catch and release mortality of king salmon in the Kenai River upstream of the sonar through the end of the season as estimated by an in-season creel survey is approximately 1,571 fish. Based on assessment of the inriver return, the projected escapement is less than the escapement goal. Therefore, these measures are warranted to continue to conserve late-run Kenai River king salmon needed for escapement.


    http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...1865&year=2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by live4chrome View Post
    Sport guys are killing too many kings? What about the netters who are taking god knows how many each day
    There are at least three other threads on the first page of this forum which are actively solving that problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by limon32 View Post
    There are at least three other threads on the first page of this forum which are actively solving that problem...
    Yeah I wouldn't say they are solving anything, more like blaming.

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    4000 kings taken from the Kenai late run kings; 2500 from the set netters,1500 from the in river fisherman, of which a large percentage went to out of state guided clients. Sounds like the non-guided sports fisherman are taking it in the shorts again! I guess all the spawning kings above the Soldotna bridge don't mean anything. What a bunch of bull! Another dumb decision from a department that has no direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limon32 View Post
    Figured I'd throw out an FYI, apparently creel survey says sport guys are killing too many in-river kings to allow bait on the lower kenai the first two weeks of august. What I find most interesting is I haven't been surveyed in 3 years and i'm on the lower river a lot.
    Thats odd. I dont fish kings there, I hit sockeye for about a week or so every year and I get asked every year Im on the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenaibow fan View Post
    Yeah I wouldn't say they are solving anything, more like blaming.
    New tactic I'm trying called "sarcasm". Logic and reasoning don't seem to work anymore.

    I was trying to be helpful letting others know about the EO, not start a fourth debate on who's fault it is that humans are deceivingly successful parasites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akcarv View Post
    4000 kings taken from the Kenai late run kings; 2500 from the set netters,1500 from the in river fisherman, of which a large percentage went to out of state guided clients. Sounds like the non-guided sports fisherman are taking it in the shorts again! I guess all the spawning kings above the Soldotna bridge don't mean anything. What a bunch of bull! Another dumb decision from a department that has no direction.
    Maybe they are trying to see who the pretenders are, you know, the guys pretending to fish for silvers but actually catch and releasing kings. First couple weeks of August, the silver fishing is generally done below the bridge, so if you are fishing above the bridge with bait, what's the objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoose35 View Post
    Maybe they are trying to see who the pretenders are, you know, the guys pretending to fish for silvers but actually catch and releasing kings. First couple weeks of August, the silver fishing is generally done below the bridge, so if you are fishing above the bridge with bait, what's the objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenaibow fan View Post
    I'm guessing those kings aren't as important…………….
    I am not agreeing with the logic of being able to fish above the bridge with bait, not sure why they would allow it. All i am saying is if a guy IS fishing above the bridge with bait Aug 1st then he is probably targeting catch and these kings and not silvers. Every king in the river is important and it would be nice to see them spawn with out being harassed

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoose35 View Post
    I am not agreeing with the logic of being able to fish above the bridge with bait, not sure why they would allow it. All i am saying is if a guy IS fishing above the bridge with bait Aug 1st then he is probably targeting catch and these kings and not silvers. Every king in the river is important and it would be nice to see them spawn with out being harassed

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    Yeah why not close the whole thing to bait? Its pretty clear that there are a fair amount of kings up that far already. They want to give the fresh ones a chance but those that are closer to spawning get the chance to have their lips ripped on purpose or by accident. Dosn't make sense.
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    Close the whole thing to bait, now where have I heard that before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by c6 batmobile View Post
    Yeah why not close the whole thing to bait? Its pretty clear that there are a fair amount of kings up that far already. They want to give the fresh ones a chance but those that are closer to spawning get the chance to have their lips ripped on purpose or by accident. Dosn't make sense.
    This has definitely been a year of very odd decisions by ADFG, have there been significant personnel changes or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoose35 View Post
    I am not agreeing with the logic of being able to fish above the bridge with bait, not sure why they would allow it. All i am saying is if a guy IS fishing above the bridge with bait Aug 1st then he is probably targeting catch and these kings and not silvers. Every king in the river is important and it would be nice to see them spawn with out being harassed

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    Well I agree with you, I think every last one is important……….but when you have EO's like this it makes you scratch your head.

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