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    Default Are Fannin Sheep Legal Game in Alaska?

    We've had some discussion about fannin sheep in Alaska, but I could not see where anyone discussed the legality of harvesting one here. Regardless of the taxonomy and the related confusion, it is my understanding that though some stone sheep may traverse into some places in Alaska, these are illegal because they are not covered in our hunting regulations.

    How about fannins?

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    How could you ever tell the difference between a fannin and a dall? I've seen dalls that had been rolling in the dirt so much they were no longer white.

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    Fannins are legal but the land that they are most common in has been increasing regulated by Doyon Native Corporation. That being said, some of the sheep out of the Nutzotins have blacktales and an ashy caste to them. Stones down near Ketchikan are not legal because sheep are not legal in unit 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaboku68 View Post
    Fannins are legal .
    Where/how did you find that out?
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    Lyman Nichols for one told me about them. David Harkness, Ken Whitten and Wayne Heimer have also talked to me about them and how they are legal. I have also talked to a lot of different guides. I won't go further because everybody gets POd if I tell more.

    My cousin shot a double broomed full-fledged stone legal north of the Yukon River.

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    If it's not in the regs, it is illegal to hunt. Pretty simple.

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    suppose it would depend on how adfg classifies them.. Pretty sure in Canada they are considered stone,unless its changed P&Y and B&C consider them stone.. Some say they are a seperate species all together.. But last I heard they are tecnically both stone and dall and you shot one I would say you had a pretty strong case in court...kind of like the guy who shot the griz/polar bear...

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    If fannins are just a color morph of a Dall sheep then there is no more difference than a color phase black bear... imho ..
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    They are classified as Dall sheep by ADFG and the less said about them the better imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushrat View Post
    They are classified as Dall sheep by ADFG and the less said about them the better imo.
    I concur with Bushrat.

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    Why Mark?
    You got a secret spot you are planning on hunting?
    Do they taste any better than a white Dall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by homerdave View Post
    If fannins are just a color morph of a Dall sheep then there is no more difference than a color phase black bear... imho ..
    Fannins are a Dall/Stone hybrid, not just a color phase Dall. That's why the legality is tricky

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    They are all the same species, Ovis dalli. Dalls are O. d. dalli, stones are O. d. stonei, and Fannin are O. d. fannini. So it seems to me that if Dall sheep are defined as legal, then that would legally cover all subspecific populations.
    Animals of the same species cannot be hybrids, hybridization is the cross fertilization of different species, not color morphs.
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    There is no legal season for all sheep in Unit 1. That is why they are not legal there.

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    Having never seen a sheep through my rifle scope, I can't imagine being able to tell the difference.
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    Straight from Tom Lohuis .... The department considers Fannin's (and stones) to be Dall sheep.
    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by homerdave View Post
    Straight from Tom Lohuis .... The department considers Fannin's (and stones) to be Dall sheep.
    End of story.
    What about the Troopers? Fish and Game doesn't interpret or enforce law.
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    What about them?
    The definition of a Dall sheep is not arbitrary. It is as cut and dried as left and right. An O. dalli is an O. dalli is an O. dalli....
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    Quote Originally Posted by homerdave
    Straight from Tom Lohuis .... The department considers Fannin's (and stones) to be Dall sheep.
    End of story.

    Dude, I already said that! <grin>

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