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    Are there any ATV trails to ride along the Tok Cutoff, besides the trails along Nabesna Road? Looking for a good ride mid to late June.

    I'm riding a Sportsman's 6x6 and my girlfriend rides the kids' Grizzly 125, but is in the market for a machine--something along the lines of a Kodiak/Grizzly 450--hoping to have one for her by then....

    Tim

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    How much of a challenge are you looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tccak71 View Post
    I'm riding a Sportsman's 6x6...
    Tim, say it isn't so! You were one of the last holdouts still rolling around on a Honda Big Red - tell me that you didn't sell the ol' girl to the scrap heap!

    (Of course, I love my 6x6, but the thought of someone still hunting on a Big Red made me smile.)

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    I sold one of my '84 Big Red's to my buddy, but I still have one. The brakes totally froze-up on it and it won't move now. Don't know what's going on, as I really didn't even use the brakes... Actually going to try and figure out the brake issue this summer and get it going. They're dependable rigs, not much suspension though.

    Love the 6x6 too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mod elan View Post
    How much of a challenge are you looking for?
    I'm up for anything. I'm going to ride the Nabesna trails and I'm going to give the NPS at Slana a hard time for them not opening all the trails. Looking for another trial(s) to ride since I'll be in the area. Want to extend my trip a bit since I'm up that way.

    Do you know of any trails up that way, Elan?

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    Chistochina and indian creek trails are muddy. Ahtell creek trail system. It's on higher ground but I haven't traveled it in a long time. Private lands in the area so stay within the easements.

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    I was wondering about trail riding up that way in June. Creeks may be full and muddy. Thanks though, I'll check it out. Haven't ever ridden up that way and wanted to make the effort since I'll be up that way.
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    Yup check it out. Having creek in the name doesn't mean it criss-crosses said creek June is also the reason why I didn't mention the other trails up there that do run the creek and river beds. Have fun!

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    FYI, here is some information on Nabesna-area trail work that was done last summer in Wrangell-St. Elias NP. Additional trail work will be under way this fall, tracking along with the improvements promised in the EIS that was done a couple of years ago. Note the phone number at the bottom for more information on trail conditions, openings/closings & permits. A photo of the new trail is attached.

    A trail crew has made solid progress this summer building a multi-use trail on the north side of Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Preserve.

    When work is wrapped up in early September, the crew will have built five miles of trail to re-route the Soda Creek Trail, replacing an old route which crossed both private land and large areas of wetlands. The new trail connects other existing trail segments off the Nabesna Road which were in better shape, giving backcountry users several route options.
    This summer’s trail work began the implementation of a trail plan which was finalized in January. The plan and environmental impact statement were result of a lawsuit settlement in which the NPS acknowledged that inadequate environmental compliance and planning had been done in the past, resulting in growing damage to wetlands and other park resources.
    “We’re building a sustainable trail using a mix of porous pavement panels, bridging, and more traditional construction in areas where we have good ground material,” said Kevin Meyer, an Anchorage-based regional trail construction specialist. “This has been a challenging project, with varied terrain and some very wet side slopes.”
    The park paired an 11-member local hire trail crew with a U.S. Forest Service trail construction team to run trail-sized mechanized equipment along with hand tools and accomplish the project.
    The trail remains closed while work is being completed, but Park Superintendent Rick Obernesser expects the Soda Creek Trail to open next summer for both ATV and non-motorized use.
    The old trail had been accessed from about Mile 2 of the Lost Creek Trail. The new trail will depart the Lost Creek Trail at about Mile 3.5, then traverse higher ground into the upper Platinum Creek drainage, then wind back to the original trail alignment. After the new trail is open, the old trail will be closed to all motorized uses, except those accessing private land.
    Work has also taken place this summer on the Copper Lake and Caribou trails, both of which are off the Nabesna Road. Trail improvement work is expected to continue next summer.
    Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Preserve is America’s largest national park. The 4.8 million acres of national preserve are open to sport hunting, and ATVs are frequently used to access hunting areas in the preserve. Permits are required for recreational ATV users and ATV use is restricted to established (and open) ATV trails. Permits are encouraged, but not required, for all subsistence users.
    Further information about trail conditions is available by calling 822-5234.
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    so....you don't need a permit if you are a "subsistence" trail rider, but otherwise you do?
    that sounds silly

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    Quote Originally Posted by sh View Post
    so....you don't need a permit if you are a "subsistence" trail rider, but otherwise you do?
    that sounds silly
    Thats only on the trails off the Nabesna road that are in the National Preserve, even with a permit you cannot ride in the park itself. Subsistence users can ride where they want without a permit since they are the ones that made those trails prior to the park and preserve coming about.

    If you want to ride atvs in the park or preserve without having to get a permit move to Tok/Glennallen/Copper Center areas. Then you can even hunt in the park.

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