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    i was thinkin the best hand gun for bear protection is ether the 44 mag or the 45 ACP

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    You will see a lot of opinions on what is the best bear pistol. It has been hashed here before. .44mag is the minimum I would go with. .45ACP would just tick off a brown, however a .454 or .45LC would do the job.

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    Things to consider (not in any specific order):
    Compactness/weight considerations. Which firearm would you carry?
    Your level of proficiency with the firearm. (including how accurate you are with it.
    Type of bear that you need protection from.
    Range of terrain that you’ll have the bear encounter.
    Is there a need for follow-up shots.
    Bullet performance
    Ammo/Bullet Availability – How about one that where suitable ammo is available?

    I was re-reading a book last night on bear hunting. Under one of the pictures, it discussed what firearm was best for bear defense and more or less answered the best firearm for bear defense was a firearm that was suitable for hunting bears. I would add that in defense situation from a bear, the bear may choose the shot angle for you whereas a bear hunter might carry with the intention of taking the standard broadside shot. Seems to reason the best handgun would be more than one would carry for hunting bears. But many people quickly dismiss this logic with the assumption that they will never need to use their firearm… then make due with the gun they carry as required.

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    My .02$, I would go with something you can shoot effectively.
    Then choose caliber, probably something like a .44 mag with hard cast bullets. Or 45 lc with hard cast. If you can't hit the bear it doesn't matter if you have a 105 howitzer, you still miss.... So pick a caliber/pistol/rifle setup your comfy with and become effective with it. If a .45 acp is all your effective with, well then I would suggest that. It probably would anger a bear though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundra2 View Post
    i was thinkin the best hand gun for bear protection is ether the 44 mag or the 45 ACP
    Why?

    The best handgun for bear protection is a 4 to 5 inch barreled revolver in as large a caliber as you can accurately draw and fire on target in less than 1.5 seconds. If you can't manage this with a cartridge that packs a serious punch, then choose something else besides a handgun for bear protection.

    Haven't there been enough of these silly threads? Why do people keep bringing this up......

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    Quote Originally Posted by iofthetaiga View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaHippie View Post
    Of all the topics that need a Sticky this one is the top of the list.
    Sticky like fly paper, or sticky like "ewww, would you hand me a towel"?
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    Sticky like, "oh, I stepped in it.....again?!?!".
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaHippie View Post
    Sticky like, "oh, I stepped in it.....again?!?!".
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    If out by yourself, then anything less than a .500 Wyoming Express shooting 440 gr hard casts from the Grizzly Cartridge Company is completely inadequate.

    If out with a group, a snub nose 38 or similar is all you need. It should be more than enough to slow down whomever you're with while you make your escape.

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    After my ecounter on Kodiak, screw pistols, I'm carrying my Model 86 Wichester 45/70 from now on. I'm just not good enough with a pistol to clear the holster and get a shot off in time to stop a bear. I saw how fast a charging bear can move, and I'm not faster. Plus I don't think anything short of a .460 S&W mag would have stopped it. For me, the pistols will be used for target shooting, hunting from a tree stand, or personal protection.
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    I can't recall any posts with a forum member ever having to defend themselves from a bear at close range with a handgun.....have there been? I sold my .44 last year, I carried that hunka steel long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdubbin View Post
    I can't recall any posts with a forum member ever having to defend themselves from a bear at close range with a handgun.....have there been? I sold my .44 last year, I carried that hunka steel long enough.
    While it was not posted by a forum member, I am very familiar with the details of one such occurrence, and generally aware of several others.
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    I and hippie, you folks are funny, we always need to readdress this question at least twice per winter... Sheesh,


    That being said, a 50 BMG in an Ingrahm SBR is a minimum IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyo2AK View Post
    If out by yourself, then anything less than a .500 Wyoming Express shooting 440 gr hard casts from the Grizzly Cartridge Company is completely inadequate.

    If out with a group, a snub nose 38 or similar is all you need. It should be more than enough to slow down whomever you're with while you make your escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdubbin View Post
    I can't recall any posts with a forum member ever having to defend themselves from a bear at close range with a handgun.....have there been? I sold my .44 last year, I carried that hunka steel long enough.
    Not forum members but I know two... One with a 454 and a very close shot on acharge and can't recall the details of the other as its been a while.. Also seem to remember on on the upper Russian who shot through the holster as the bear was on top of him or something but hard to remember actual details vs stories..
    I have used my pistol to chase off an aggressive teen on kodiak by splattering mud in his face at close range with my .475 LB


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    Speaking of the .475 Linebaugh... I once heard a story of Dustin Linebaugh killing a charging Brown Bear at 200 yards! Well, maybe it wasn't charging. But, he did take it at 200 yards. So I'm sure it's capable at 20 feet also. Wish I had one! I used to haul my Anaconda .44 mag everywhere. Used to!

    EDIT: Was just told it was only 176 yards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperCub View Post
    Speaking of the .475 Linebaugh... I once heard a story of Dustin Linebaugh killing a charging Brown Bear at 200 yards! Well, maybe it wasn't charging. But, he did take it at 200 yards. So I'm sure it's capable at 20 feet also. Wish I had one! I used to haul my Anaconda .44 mag everywhere. Used to!

    EDIT: Was just told it was only 176 yards...
    If it was under 200 yards Ole Linebaughs hould have just used the old Colt Woodsman with no front sight. Anything more is cheating.

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