Guys, if anyone is looking for a down mid layer, maybe I can save ya some shopping. This Dameree Canyon 800 fill jacket is on sale for a ridiculous $99 on golite.com. Gotta buy something else for a few dollars to get free shipping for orders over a $100. Weighs a couple more ounces than some Ultra light camo models but if my conversion math is correct, this jacket has more than twice the fill weight. At less than half the price. I just got mine and it has a really nice, solid puff but still fits comfortably under my guide jacket. Much more manly looking than all the girly down jackets I see all the metro sexuals wearing around town. I am no garment expert but the jacket seems to be high quality. I wore it walking around the neighborhood the other night for an hour with nothing but a T under it. It was ten degrees and I was toasty.