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    A guy I work with was chatting with an ADF&G officer at SBS the other day and he mentioned that a brown bear had just been killed somewhere in the lower susitna drainage that was tagged in 1964 making this bear over 40 years old. Anybody else hear of this and are there documented cases of bears this old? He wanted me to check into it and I thought this was just the place!

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    Default Havent heard of it

    I haven't heard of it, but it sure sounds interesting.

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    Haven't heard of "that" bear....but a call to Fish and Game in Palmer asking might be another place to check....

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    Default hmmmm I wonder....

    the internet is the last place to verify anything like this

    of course anything is possible

    and its funny, its always a guy talking to another guy that has a friend that works there that says it!

    soon a picture will be attached that shows ole Ted's bear and a story is borne

    I call BS on this one - sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutter View Post

    I call BS on this one - sorry
    Hey man it very might be...no skin of my back!! On the second note, does anyone know if bears are known to get this old?

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    Looks like age is commonly 15-20 yrs. with extreme cases to 30 yrs. 40+ looks like it would be a scientific discovery!

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    Default thats old

    Ive heard of 30yrs but never 40. The one that ate Timothy Treadwell was 28, and considerd extremely old

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    Default ya never know...

    A good pal told me that his hunting partner took a Delta Use area sheep about 5 years ago that had a collar on it. The thick horned knarly ram was suffering badly as the collar was literally slowly choking it.
    Research revealed that the ram was last surveyed 14 years earlier and it was 2 years old when it was collared=16 years old.
    The ram was 100 miles from its original collaring spot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LungShot View Post
    Ive heard of 30yrs but never 40. The one that ate Timothy Treadwell was 28, and considerd extremely old
    And an old wise bear it was

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    Oldest boar from Kodiak I heard of was 27 years old and a sow was 34 years old. Biggest bear I heard of was a Kodiak bear in a Bismark N.D. zoo that died in 1987 and weighed 2,130 lbs. They think it was up to 2,400 lbs. the year before it died. Said to have had 9 inches of fat on it in places. It had been fed doughnuts and sweets for years. Go figure.

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    Default Old Bear

    I helped a pal of mine get his Grizzly in the spring of 2000 here in Unit 22.
    It had been one of the tagged study bears and the collar had long been removed but the lip tattoo was still there.
    When he took it in for sealing ADF&G had a quite a bit of info on the bear,which by the way was a sow.
    The bear was tagged as a 22 year old in 1992, she had two one year old cubs with her and she weighed 408 pounds hanging in a sling attached to the helicopter. The tagging date was early June.
    Eight years later I found her on a slope in mid May at about midnight and she was dead shortly after that, having lived to an age of 30 years old. I almost felt bad for the old matriarch when I found out her history.
    She still holds the distinction of being the oldest known sealed Grizzly in unit 22. Her skull was around mid 21" something and her very pretty blonde hide was an even seven feet. She was fat as any bear we've killed in the spring, I don't think they lose all that much mass anyway.Some are skinny but it seems the majority have a good bit of fat on them still.
    Her teeth were near the gum lines but the canines were intact and she was in very good shape for such an old grandma. Who knows if she'd have put her butt in the air that spring for the stud boar who was looking for her too ( I found her first!) and had another cub or two. I often wonder just how long she would have lived.
    They are an amazing animal.

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    Default Bear Age

    On the subject of bear ages. I have been lucky enough to have harvested a couple brown bears over the last few years. Both times at sealing the Fish and Game official took a tooth for "aging" purposes. I have never received notice as to how old they were, have any of you? Is this something that should be provided to the hunter or can you access a web-based program that may have the information the biologists are getting from these teeth?
    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treetop-flyer12 View Post
    On the subject of bear ages. I have been lucky enough to have harvested a couple brown bears over the last few years. Both times at sealing the Fish and Game official took a tooth for "aging" purposes. I have never received notice as to how old they were, have any of you? Is this something that should be provided to the hunter or can you access a web-based program that may have the information the biologists are getting from these teeth?

    Great questions, Mike!
    I really like knowing the history of the animals our family harvests....

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    Default tooth & age

    I just talked to F&G here in Juneau and asked about my bear I killed last Spring. My black bear turned out to be 18 years old.

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    Default "Tooth" age

    I have never rec'd back any aging for the blackies I or my sons have taken. On the other hand I have always rec'd a post card in the mail for the age of the griz/browns taken.

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    i was at fish and game in anchorage today, the only two bear sealers on site said they have not seen that 1964 bear and have only sealed 4 bears to date.

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