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    Default Air Force Rec camp in Seward

    If you use thisfacility make sure you spend some time there this year. With budget cut backsthey are pulling out and signing over the buildings to the city. The army campwill remain but the Air Force camp as of October will be of the past. Sorry forthe sad news

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    Thanks for the update. So much for all the upgrades that were going to happen this year...
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    Is that place open to anyone or just military/veterans?

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    Is that place open to anyone or just military/veterans?
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    Seward Resort Patronage Policy

    Please note: The sponsor must present his or her valid military
    ID card at the time of check in. *Check in will not be allowed
    without military ID. *The sponsor must be present at the time of
    check-in. *Only the person whose name appears on the
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    Bummer, we use the Air Force camp all the time...not as hectic as the Army side. Yes, I know about the Joint Base thing ~ they're all one now...but really not. We have a cabin reserved for my visiting family in July and a pull-through RV slot for our pick-up truck camper.

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    I like the Air Force fish house for the fact you can drive and park you boat next to the fish house.
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    Exactly, and it just has a more relaxed feeling to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska Gray View Post
    I like the Air Force fish house for the fact you can drive and park you boat next to the fish house.

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    Unforunately, Air Force services stopped being services a number of years ago. "They " keep making rules abouor profitability and sharing revenue that makes it impossible to operate. Plus the people in charge of services really don't seem to give a darn. Some of the people working there are great but the bosses, especially those at headquarters are really clueless.

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    Your post makes this issue seem localized. Do we know if it's just here in Alaska or is this a bigger issue. Anything we can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill S. View Post
    Unforunately, Air Force services stopped being services a number of years ago. "They " keep making rules abouor profitability and sharing revenue that makes it impossible to operate. Plus the people in charge of services really don't seem to give a darn. Some of the people working there are great but the bosses, especially those at headquarters are really clueless.

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    I have been yelled at more the once by the fish house commander I call him.
    Cause I stay at the army side and like to clean my fish on the Air Force side.
    He try to charge me $5 per person on my boat and then belittle me in front of other customers.
    I will say he never did that again!!!
    agree Air Force side is much more relaxed compared to the Army side.

    And if you so happen to come in same time as there charters.
    Good luck dealing with the chaos
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    I went with a friend who is retired air force. I loved processing out fish in the fish house and having it flash froze for us. Beats messing up my kitchen, that's for sure! Sad to hear it go.

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    Would be nice if the Army just took it over instead of giving it to the City
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    The real estate has always been the Cityís. The Air Force has leased it from the city for a $1.The buildings belong to the Air Force and they will sign them over to the city at the end of the season. I believe, but not sure, that this is a nationwide thing not an Alaska cut back. I sure hate to see it go.

    Not really sure what the city will do with it. Some talk about parks and rec taking it over and operating it through the summer. A couple city council members want to sell it to the highest bidder. Who knows what will happen. The only thing I know is if the city takes it over it will be a dysfunctional mess

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    Sad to see it go for sure ill be down that way this weekend and hope to spend some time in the fish house cleaning some butts!!

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    The Army side just got a whole lot more crowded!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiak kid View Post
    The real estate has always been the Cityís. The Air Force has leased it from the city for a $1.The buildings belong to the Air Force and they will sign them over to the city at the end of the season. I believe, but not sure, that this is a nationwide thing not an Alaska cut back. I sure hate to see it go.

    Not really sure what the city will do with it. Some talk about parks and rec taking it over and operating it through the summer. A couple city council members want to sell it to the highest bidder. Who knows what will happen. The only thing I know is if the city takes it over it will be a dysfunctional mess



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    The only thing I know is if the city takes it over it will be a dysfunctional mess.



    You got that right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I think it's great news! Yep, I'll say it again, I think closeing the place would be great.

    What's wrong with this story? Well, when the widow of a deceased postmaster can stay there but two VietNam vets (one wounded) cant then somethings wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiak kid View Post
    .......Not really sure what the city will do with it. Some talk about parks and rec taking it over and operating it through the summer. A couple city council members want to sell it to the highest bidder..........
    Sorry to say that I'm so busy this year that might not even make it to Seward this summer. Pretty sad, especially for a retired guy.

    I suppose it's karma, because the Air Force camp was my favorite. So I'm real curious on what the city is doing with it.

    Anybody know what the city is doing? Is the place just boarded up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain View Post
    Sorry to say that I'm so busy this year that might not even make it to Seward this summer. Pretty sad, especially for a retired guy.

    I suppose it's karma, because the Air Force camp was my favorite. So I'm real curious on what the city is doing with it.

    Anybody know what the city is doing? Is the place just boarded up?
    They're not doing a dang thing with it. Keep out signs at all the entrances, and that's it.

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