Ok flame away. In Minnesota they went to no alcohol on Minnesota point a very poplular spot for smelting. The problems associated with smelting all went away. Litter went to almost zero. It also drasticaly cut people trespassing on private property to take a leak and what not. Parking opened up and those who were there for the smelting all cheered. Now dont get me wrong i love to tip a few, OK maybe more than a few but it sure tamed the circus. Before it was like the gong show. Drunk idiots trashing the place and on and on. Now its a great place to smelt. Just a thought. After i read teh Kenai dippnetting report it sure seemed cutting off the booze would fix a lot of problems.