well i think i beat the umiak thread to death,
how about a freighter canoe?
Wow what a canoe love the Umiak wonder how it would do with a motor in the big rivers, shallow water how it would hold up. Neat pics and family. Makes the Scott look like a toy! Quite a cartop canoe!!!! Thanks for posting.
i have seen photos of them with transoms and outboards as well as motor wells with outboards.
i do not know about a steady diet of dragging bottom.
i have four hp and thought i would make a side mount for because in a stiff breeze she can get a little unruly,especially when loaded light.
Looks like one heck of a project. It will be real interesting to watch your progress to the maiden voyage. How about some background on your experience and abilities building such a project. Thanks for sharing
I love his umiak but wonder how it'd do bouncin' off rocks like I do in my Scott. With weight, comes its privileges......
Originally Posted by kk alaska
I just like to build things.
Boats being one of them.
I am really excited about this canoe.
I have a lot to sort out, glass lay up, power plant, outrigger oarlocks, tie downs, anchor rigging, rod holders,removable seats and thwarts, floatation,spray cover, trailer are some I can think of right now.
But I enjoy the engineering as much if not more than the build itself.
So we will see how it shakes out.
I am thinking more how this freighter will do bouncing off the rocks.
What's your guess?
Great pictures. A continuing series of pictures of your build will fascinate all of us on this forum. Is this pattered off the Grand Laker in Gil Gilpatrick's book? What are the your design dimensions and weight? And intended use? Looks like a wonderful project. Keep posting pictures of your progress. They are fully appreciated.
I'm no expert on hull strength, but I'd wonder if your hull might rip a hole before my fiberglass would.
Originally Posted by oyster
That being said, you've constructed a beautiful craft, that is lighter than anyone could ever guess for its massive size. I'm betting its also stable as the day is long too - am I right on that?
I never get tired of looking at the pictures of what you've done; thanks for sharing them.
this where the design and patterns came from,tim will cut forms as well if you want.
20' LOA, 54"beam, 43"transom, 20" deep.
i guess weight will depend on lay up.
i have enough 60" 10 oz glass to do 3 layers in and out.
the strips are 1/2"thick and the designer says to lay 50" 10 oz glass down from shear lapping in the center by 10" in and out.
but i think they do not beat their boats up the way we do.
i will use it for hunting, fishing, camping, picnicking, exploring.
i think you are talking about the umiak and i am talking about the cedar strip freighter canoe i am building.
so if you were talking about the umiak, yes very stable.
a few more strips and a few more photos
a couple buddies came over today and smeared glue with me.
31 strips on each side and 1 more photo
Great job and what a project!! It looks like I should have tried a canoe like that instead of the ocean kayak I chose. I am having an awful time getting the compound curves on the bow and stern to work out the way it is supposed to be. My strips are 1/4" thick and 5/8" wide and will twist a little but not much. I'm ending up with some gaps between the strips and must hand fit each piece. ..not easy but it will work out in the end.
You are an inspiration to use all!!
i can see you landing a nice brookie or bow from your kayak next summer.
not easy = more satisfaction.
how is all that for inspiration?
do not forget to have fun doing it.
2 more photos,
coming along nicely.
getting a little tougher up at the bow,lots of twist.
Those twists are what gave me fits on the kayak. I don't know if it was the right thing to do, but I took a small hand plane and reduced the thickness of the strip so it would bend easier on the curves. You just need to remember the strip is thinner there when you do the shaping before the lay-up....so go slow!!
thanks for the tip lowrider,
so far i have been able to horse the strips into submission,waiting for one to bust.
none as of yet have busted.
how about some photos of your build?
It's a long story but mine is hung up waiting for a winter day when I feel like fooling with it. In the mean time I'm putting a cabin on my little lake boat. I'll see if I can get a shot of both and try to post it.
any builders out there that have a opinion on how much glass to put on this freighter?
1/2" thick red cedar strips.
1 1/2 x 1 1/2 keelson and 2 stringers spaced 10" apart.
looking for rock bouncing durability.
i have 10 oz plain weave 18x18 e glass already and silvertip epoxy.
how many layers would you put on?